Auto select proper alien subtitle... how?

[ux-3]

I would like to have my DVD Player automatically select the alien subtitles for the currently selected _audio_ language:
If the Player is set to english audio, I want to have klingon to english translation automatically, if it set to french, the klingon french translation should show. I suppose I would just like to have this much the way the DVD does it before I reauthor. Can someone tell me or point me to a solution? I am reauthoring from elementary streams, and I have found how to set a SUP Stream as forced. But it seems this is not enough. Thanks a lot for help!

[lusid]

You'll have to write some pre commands that execute in you movie pgc to set the subtitles depending on the current setting for the audio stream.

If you go back to the original IFOs and follow the pgc logic you should find the code the studios used for that purpose, as an example.

[ux-3]

I have already tried to understand the settings, but in the main ifo, there ise only hexadecimal stuff. I have already found a menu, where I can select the subtitles as forced or as directors comments or such, but I am under the impression that playback logic doesn't really consider this setting as binding.

I would think that many people would like to select this feature, as very few are well versed in klingon or elvish. And once the scene is there, it is a little late to zap through the subtitle streams in order to understand the dialogues.

So if anyone did find some info on it, please post a link.

Thanks

[lusid]

If it has klingon subs, I have it sitting on my shelf. Which one is it? Now you have me curious.

[ux-3]

Pal version of STAR TREK VI has a klingon - german subtitle which I would like to get, when I ONLY have the movie without menues on the disc. I fear that the removal of user prohibitions may be responsible. But I have no clue as to which prohibitions to leave...

[lusid]

I don't think user prohibitions would affect it. But once you get it working you may want to prohibit on-the-fly sub stream changes, otherwise someone might turn them off during playback.

If you just ripped one audio and one sub, you should be able to use the force subtitles guide to turn them on. If you have multiple audio/sub streams it will be more complicated.

In psuedocode (all pre commands for the main title pgc):

1: GPreg<0> mov SPreg<preferred audio language>
2: If GPreg<0> != (cmp-val)< -value for english- > Then goto line 4
3: Set Audio = English : SubStream = Alien to Eng Sub track
4: If GPreg<0> != (cmp-val)< -value for German- > Then goto Line 6
5: Set Audio = German: SubStream = Alien to German subs
6: .......


It would be easier to do as part of a menu pgc, esp if you also want to keep full subs, not just alien subs.

[roach76]

You should be able to set your DVD Player to default to a certain Subtitle language as well, but it wouldn't be able to change it for you based on the audio being heard. I've only seen DVD Players have the option to show subtitles the same as your prefered audio language if that audio language isn't available on the disc. Other than that you can only select one language's subtitles to turn on without a Subtitle Language Selection screen. By putting it into the IFO file.

Maybe you should of just kept the 'Subtitle Language Selection Menu Screen'. I'm sure it wouldn't of taken that much space.

[ux-3]

Thanks for helping. I have now come to a point where a different questuion might solve the issue. Since that angle of attack does not really fit into this thread, I will start a new one.

[ux-3]

I got a chance to see a precommand sequence (Episode I) which ought to do what I wanted. But I also learned how to select the subtitle alone. So I will just set it to default to alien native translation. In case I need alien english, I will have to switch. If I bother to switch languages for good, I might as well hit the subtitle button...