Traditional Chinese translation

[Doom9]

Originally started in http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43234&perpage=20&pagenumber=1 this is where discussion about the Traditional Chinese translation of the Doom9 site should go on.

Project Overview
Project leader: Andante andante@doom9.org
Project homepage: http://big5.doom9.org/
Project members / potentially interested people:
pighead
lyl797
Jeff_happy
intoxicated
tin852

Work to be done:
- mark documents that are being translated/have been translated in the document overview (or did I miss that?). done
- Decide on a .doom9.org/net subdomain: suggestion: big5.doom9.org/net (an own country specific domain name could also be an option). done
- Decide on a final hosting (the current one only allows for web forwards meaning that you cannot get direct access to my software archive and would be forced to go for a solution like the French team, meaning they have to change their software page to just include a link to my own software page). done
- translate more documents ;)

[andante]

@Doom9
I've marked the documents by text, and i'll use flag for replacement later.
About the hosting, what do you mean that "only allows for web forwards"? And what should i do to get direct access to your software archive ?
thanx :)

[Doom9]

you need a hosting that allows for vhosts... assuming you go for my proposal the server the site is on has to repond with the Traditional Chinese index page if somebody sends a request for "big5.doom9.org" to the server. Currently the site is located in a subdirectory called "big5_doom9" of a server that responds to requests for "home.kimo.com.tw". I will not allow access to a server that neither has a xyz.doom9.org or a country specific doom9 domain (like doom9.de, doom9.it, doom9.nl).
As for web forwards may this will explain it better: enter www.doom9.net in your browser. You'll be taken to my page. Now look at any link that stays on my page (for instance the new guide)... the url you'll see will not be www.doom9.net/mpg/multipgc-guide.htm but www.doom9.org/mpg/multipgc-guide.htm. This is because the www.doom9.net url is a web forward, that is you type the url, and a hidden frame will be loaded that will display the contents of www.doom9.org. You can also see this when you type french.doom9.net in your browser... the actual site is located on doom9.free.fr, only the address bar in your browser will show french.doom9.net but the actual links in the site all go to doom9.free.fr/something.. Except for the French site (they have to link to my software page and can't link to downloads directly) all other mirrors have real vhosts (if you type spanish.doom9.org in your browser, then click on a link you'll see that it goes to spanish.doom9.org/something... so the Spanish site has a real vhost - virtual host - on one of my servers).

More info on vhosts can be found here: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/vhosts/index.html

Oh, and btw, that doom9.free.fr is a subdomain of the free.fr domain, so meaning the server www.free.fr runs on has a vhost for doom9.free.fr so when a browser requests doom9.free.fr it will send out a different page than when a browser requests www.free.fr. And.. why do we use vhosts? They allow us to run different sites on the same server. As you may know, IP addresses are a scarce resource and using one Network Interface you can have one IP address. So in order to run say www.doom9.org and spanish.doom9.org on the same server you need a vhost for www.doom9.org and spanish.doom9.org. Each vhost specifies which page is to be loaded when a certain request comes in. Now if I were to create a real domain record for big5.doom9.org and point it to the IP behind home.kimo.com.tw you'd still get to see the homepage of www.kimo.com.tw as the server in question does not know it's supposed to show your page when somebody asks it for big5.doom9.org.
Hope that was clear enough... at the beginning I've had quite a hard time myself properly understanding these concepts.

[andante]

I have a new host at
http://140.123.175.217

try it :D

[Doom9]

it's an IP based host I have just added an A record.. the site can now be reached via the official url (as mentioned above). big5.doom9.org (the corresponding doom9.net entry has also been made)

There's just a small problem with the left frame.. I get a scroll bar here so some resizing might be in order (it worked when it was on the temp hosting). Ahem.. scratch that comment, seems it works when I use the doom9.org url to access the site.

Email is currently inactive (in fact, the whole hosting company is currently off the web so my email server being down looks relatively small in comparision) though.. I hope they won't simply drop all email sent and you'll eventually be able to get your messages when the hosting company is back online.

[Doom9]

is it me or is the server down?