DVD plays fine on PC but is choppy on Standalone Player

[Ranboob]

This was japanese anime DVD, a DVD9. I used CCE to reduce it, I used a CBR of 4000 which looked very good since it was anime. The source is NTSC Interlaced 29.97fps. i checked the following options in CCE: "Add Sequence end code" "Upper Field First" "Linear Quantizer scale" "zigzag scanning order" and "DVD compliant". I didn't use pulldown, from what i understood you only use it if your mpv file isn't 29.97 fps but mine was so i didn't use it (a fatal mistake perhaps?). i authored it using Maestro and burnt it using Nero 5.5.10.0 as DVD Video (ISO 1) and when i tried it on PowerDVD it was flawless: great quality, both audio tracks and subs in synch. but then when i put it in my JVC XV-FA90BK standalone player the video was choppy and flickering (audio and subs were still fine). From what i read in the forum a lot of problems come from burning with nero. could that be my only problem? if so what software do you recommend for burning (can I use Alcohol 120%, i love that software)and if thats not the case should i have done something else in CCE? Thanks for helping this newbie out. :confused:

[nimrodim]

well as a newbie as well i can try and help...
First how did you feed the video into cce?
I think you should have deinterlaced it before feeding it into cce (when frameserving try decomb with avisynth)...
then apply a pulldown on it after you get the mpv file from cce back to 29.976...

Nim

[Ranboob]

I framserved using VFAPI

[nimrodim]

Are you using dvd2avi?
If so in order to frame serve a d2v file into cce with avisynth check the following page http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/userguides/78221.php or this guide in doom9 http://www.doom9.org/mpg/d2a-mpeg2dec.htm
But you also have to read about using the decomb filter in avisynth - and then add to your avisynth script something like this:
LoadPlugin("c:\decomb.dll")
Telecide()
Decimate(cycle=5)
(look also in the avisynth forum in doom9)

Nim

[dbernat32]

Zigzag scanning order is only for progressive video.
Use alternate scanning order (uncheck zigzag).

To be honest, CCE is fast and has excellent quality, but it only works well with certain types of video. Pure progressive videos work wonderfully but interlaced is a gamble.
With interlaced (or mixed) I use TMpgEnc.

[Ranboob]

Thanks for the help guys. I need to find the DVD+RW that came with my burner and hopefully it will play on my standalone because i can't keep wasting DVD-Rs to test stuff out. Have any of you tried DVD2One with Interlaced content? Does it work properly? And does jdobbs' new MakeItEasy frontend support multi-PGC discs? Also is it possible to add the original VOB menu when authoring in Maestro? Right now i take screenshots using PowerDVD which is annoying and time consuming and the selection cursors look ugly to boot. Thanks again. :)

[carlinhosg]

Ranboob,

I think your problem is burning with Nero. I once tried burning a DVD authored in Maestro with Nero and I got the same results you got. I burned the same image with Gear Pro and that took care of the problem.

Hope this helps.

[Calypso]

The problem is not with Nero. The problem is selecting Zigzag scanning order, as dbernat32 stated earlier. I don't know why these kinds of statements are made.

The following remarks pertain to NTSC only!!!

As for nimrodim's statements about Telicide and Decimate, you should only do this on Interlaced material that was obviously telicined. There are many sources of "True" interlaced material, and if you Telicide/Decimate it you will basically ruin your video. True interlaced material should be left alone if viewing on TV, and FieldDeinterlaced() if you must to view on a monitor or digital screen. The easiest way to determine whether interlaced material is Telecined or true interlace is to view high action scenes one frame at a time in VirtualDub. If you see two "combed" frames, followed by three relatively clean frames, followed by two more "combed" frames, etc- you generally have telecined material and can safely Telicide/Decimate and encode at 23.976fps. Then, and only then can you 'pulldown' the encoded material.

If you see basically all frames 'combed', then it is most likely true interlaced material. This is always encoded at 29.97 FPS, whether you deinterlace or not, and you never pulldown this encoded video.

LEARN this stuff before making recommendations that have no basis!