MakeItEasy

[jdobbs]

Until there are some moderators named, here is the attachment I promised in the DVD2one forum...

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[Eyes`Only]

aren't you a mod there?

[jdobbs]

I am now. I wasn't when I posted this.

[Eyes`Only]

k. figured it was something like that, I just felt like posting :D

[jdobbs]

Whoah.... I underestimated the interest in this program... my apologies to all 2,693 beta testers :eek: for the goofy error in the unpadding option. Attached is a new version to fix it.

Other items of note:

1. IFOEDIT creates the new IFO files as if the stream were always VTS_01_1.VOB -- you need to rename it.

2. If the source uses a VOBID higher than 70, you may run into problems. I haven't seen one that high yet -- but it's possible.

3. It is possible to enter a number in the MByte box that will make the set too large. (You can only go to VTS_0n_9.VOB).

Same rules as before. Remember this is still in development

jdobbs

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[coach]

I have tried to use this program all day and keep coming up with the same outcome, the finished file size is 4.9Gb. I'll try to keep this short but would appreciate your thoughts. I ripped a movie using DVD Decryptor, I followed the guide for Make it Easy to the letter but had to assume some things. When I separated the main movie from the extras I had a movie file of 6.02Gb and an extras folder of 1.43Gb. Here is my first question, how do you write 1.43Gb as Mb, I wrote 1430 I think this is correct. When you run IfoEdit and create Ifos do you leave the settings as they are, I opted to leave the PGC and Chapter settings as they were and to have the destination folder the same as the source. When IfoEdit was finished the source folder was 7.42Gb, when I ran DVD2One it does not have a description for the audio files or the subtitle files, I just picked the first option on each. After running the file through DVD2One the file size was 4.37Gb. After removing the padding with Make it Easy the file size is 3.54Gb (do you just select the first file from your folder)as you can see these figures do not add up, it should have removed 1.43Gb but it didn't so when I add this file back to the original I end up with 4.9Gb. Can anyone tell me what is going wrong.
Cheers
Coach.

[coach]

I have received an e-mail from schlaufer, he is a junior member and not allowed to post. He has asked me to post his reply to my post. It may be the solution to my problem and he wants me to post it so that others can benefit from it so here it is. It is an alternative calculation for the padding.

vts = size of the vobs of the main movie
xtr = size of all except the main movie
c = size needed for Padding

pad = vts*xtr/(4,38GB-xtr)

Example (Memento RC2):
vts=6,003,361,792
xtr=1,164,850,480 (trailers from other dvds stripped with IfoEdit)
pad=6,003,361,792*1,164,850,480/(4,700,000,000-1,164,850,480)
=1,978,139,489 byte
=1886.5MB

So I choose 1900 MB padding to have a little room for errors.

I'll post my findings for this formula once I have tried it, but it is here for others to try also
Coach.

[jdobbs]

If you do it once and it is too large, add more padding and do it again... the more padding added, the smaller the output. Also, please note that you can use the "Unpad" function to remove the padding from the original files as well (in case you want to redo).

I'll admit theres a lot of guesswork in the padding... but I've tried this on several DVDs, and the only one that I've had trouble with is "Matrix", and it is pretty unique.

(What have :(I started? Should I have named this DoItHard?)

[dexterkitty]

At step 4 to remove the padding, do I have to do it for every vob or just the _1.vob? Also, should the file size decrease after the padding is removed?

Looks like a great program.

[jdobbs]

Pick any .VOB --- it then selects the entire set for processing, it should definitely shrink.

[dexterkitty]

When calculating the main movie size, should I include the _0.vob?

[coach]

OK I still cannot get the end file size down to 4.38GB. The original rip is 7.45GB, after the split the main movie is 6.02GB and the extras are 1.43GB. I have tried all the way up to 3000MB for the paddind and I still end up with a finished file size after all the other processes of 4.58GB. Surely 3000MB should be more than enough to allow for any discrepancies in the calculations. Should I start again and allow 3500MB for the padding, this seems to be an awful lot of space to be taking away from the main movie. When I ran the movie through Power DVD the last time after I used 3000MB for the padding it didn't seem to have affected the quality of the main movie. Has anyone else had to use very large padding above the size that they calculated.
Coach.

[jdobbs]

It probably wouldn't work. That might make it larger than the maximum size of a VTS (9 files). I'll give this some thought. Not sure why it doesn't shrink more.

[Calypso]

According to my calculations, you would normally need 2991MB. The first half of the movie must be easier to compress then the rest of the move, thus it compresses more. Therefore, 'less' will be removed when you 'unpad'.

[coach]

Can anyone work out the maximum padding for this movie without exceeding the 9 VTS files I am going to try 3500 padding but I think it will run over the 9 files.
Coach

[jdobbs]

Tell you what. I'll try a couple of experiments later today, and if IFOEDIT and DVD2one lets me get away with it I can increast the size of the VOBs beyond 1MB. You definitely wouldn't want to do that for something that is to be written to DVD-R, but this is just padding and will go away.

[coach]

Tried 1 last time and failed again. Started with movie file of 6.02GB, with 7 VTS files. Maximum size of packing that Make it Easy would allow was 3010MB, after adding padding size went up to 8.96GB. Ran DVD2one and size came down to 4.36GB, went to remove padding and size remained the same 4.36GB. Don't know what went wrong but I am going to wait until I hear from jdobbs after his experiments. Thanks for the replies and keep up the good work.
Coach.

[jdobbs]

@coach

Are you sure you're unpadding the correct directory? I've never seen it fail to unpad since the last update. If you inadvertently choose the source directory (the one you originally padded) it will go through and unpad it -- but it is the wrong file.

[jdobbs]

I wish the DVD2one author would make that one simple change (setting the required output size) and output a minor revision. I can't imagine it to be that difficult a modification. I'd like to dump this whole concept of padding. It takes longer to encode and adds too much time and chance for error to the process.

But as of this moment its the only way (using DVD2one).

[coach]

OK. I tried it again, didn't do anything different and I managed to get the finished file down to 4.38GB. When I tried to burn it, it was too big at 4.38GB. I put the new movie files back through the system and ended up with a finished file of 3.9GB. Burned it and watched it and could not really say that the quality had suffered. When I come to select the audio, subtitles and angle from DVD2One it does not always give me a description of what they are, I just assume that the first ones are english. Anyway I will try another movie tonight to see if it was an accident or not.
Coach.

[jdobbs]

Attached is the newest Beta of MakeItEasy. I found and corrected a couple of important bugs.

- Found and fixed a significant error in the cell entry table update routine. This should fix the navigation problems some have seen.
- Changed algorithm in padding, fixes several possible problems
- Increased the .VOB filesize during padding. This will allow a larger value to be entered in the "Increase Size By" box so you don't run out of .VOBs or finish only to find you are 100Mb over. So you can guess high to be safe now.

Known items that still need to be fixed:

- Seamless branching (e.g. "The Matrix"). While the CELLs are copied correctly, the IFO generation process from IFOEDIT cannot determine the ILVU VOBU start sector.

Still keep in mind that this is a beta -- please report errors with detailed information.

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[jdobbs]

And, based on some inputs, I am now updating to v0.14 -- I think this one will be the last for a while (days anyhow). Changes:

- Changed both "Browse" buttons so they browse for directories rather than files (since that is what is actually happening).
- Added a feature to Step 2 so padding can be automatically calculated.

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[sidders]

When I download this, it is stil version 0.14. Am i doing something wrong?

edit

works now

[dvdRENEGADE]

sidders,
I downloaded it and it's version 0.15 . Maybe you are running the older version by mistake.


jdobbs,
I've run 3 backups with 0.15. The automatic padding calc. has worked great and I have not had any problems with this version...all chapters have matched up, etc. Do you have any idea when you might add the "transfer time map" feature?
Thanks,
dvdRENEGADE

[sidders]

I am still having problems with this particular DVD
main - 5.07gb
extras - 2.84gb

the suggested padding is over 10gb

even with the program allowing for vobs up to 1.33gb now, this still takes me way over the 9 vob files in a vts set, therefore comes up with an error

[dvdRENEGADE]

sidders,
It sounds like you're using the extras titleset and not the movie. I'm not sure if that's what you're trying to do or not. If not, load up the largest titleset and use it for MakeItEasy's calculations. Version 0.15 does the calculating for you now. If you were intending to try to lower the bitrate of the other extras titleset, good luck to you. It'll take some extra work and calculating.
dvdRENEGADE

[sidders]

no, i'm using the main movie titleset.

i think i will have to rum the extras through the process first as they are quite large.
Otherwise I am reducing the main vobs from 5.07gb to less than 2gb in order to fit the dvd with the extras left untouched.

What i'm tring now is padding up the extras by 5gb and running them through dvd2one, so when i come to do the main movie, hoefully i won't require much padding as the extas are reduced in size.

[kolonel]

Sidders

I work it out to be 5.12885844

Got calc from previous post

a is size of whole disc
b is size of extra's
c is size for padding

(a/4.38)*b=c

Hope it helps

[sidders]

kolenal
cheers for your post

i tried this amount before though and came out with a dvd too big

[coach]

Instead of starting a new thread I have posted this here bacause we are talking about the same program. I have tried to put 2 large DVD's through the process and have come up against the same problem. I am using the latest version of Make it Easy. I have managed to reduce the size of the movie to fit onto DVD-r but there are problems. The chapters do not point to the correct point in the movie, out of 24 chapters only 11 of them take me to somewhere in the movie the rest of them take me back to the titles menu. The main movie was in VTS_02 which meant I had to change the numbers after running IfoEdit and before putting the files back into the Original folder, is there anything wrong with this. The other thing is if I try to play the movie back through IfoEdit when it gets to the point to play the movie title set it stops and begins to squeele, the program must then be closed down. The movie plays OK with Power DVD. Any Ideas.
Coach.

[mike4692]

jdobbs

I have just done black hawk down(R2) , it went great , got it to be 4.3gb with the extras , but when I came to burn it , the dvd only burt 768.55mb which is the data up to the point of the main movie ifo , the total size of the disc is 4409.23 MB is this a bugg perhaps ,

I am using record now max to burn , and followed the guide to the letter , just seem to be going in circles , I tried it with CEE b4 and ifoupdate gave me an error aswell , more cells than original , this is a single pgc aswell ,I dont know where I am going wrong , it must be to do with the update

[Subzero]

I don't know about you guys but I was still having problems padding using the latest version of makeiteasy, but I think I figured out a formula, this here is a formula I used backing up the dvd of Shrek

Size Of DVD-R= 4.38 GB (4,700,000,000 bytes)
Size Of Disc = 7.22 GB (7,755,094,016 bytes)
MOVIE VOBS = 5.23 GB (5,623,584,768 bytes)
EXTRAS = 1.98 GB (2,131,509,248 bytes)

Formula

(Size Of Disc/Size Of DVD-R)*(Size Of DVD-R-Extras)+10%=Padding

Example

(7755/4700)*(4700-2131)
1.65*2569=4238.85
4238.85+10%=4662.735

So Padding would be 4663

My dvd of Shrek came out exactly 4.33 GB (4,653,393,920 bytes) I kept the 6 channel AC3 track plus the DTS track and subtitles and the video still looked good, hopefully this help anyone having trouble.

Thx, Subby

[sidders]

I tried this forula subby and it definitely doesn't work for me. I am finding that the best way is to use makeiteasy calculation then add on about 15%.

Seems as though some calculations work for some and not for others. Cheers for the reply though subby

[alanrob]

Originally posted by mike4692
jdobbs

I have just done black hawk down(R2) , it went great , got it to be 4.3gb with the extras , but when I came to burn it , the dvd only burt 768.55mb which is the data up to the point of the main movie ifo , the total size of the disc is 4409.23 MB is this a bugg perhaps ,

I am using record now max to burn , and followed the guide to the letter , just seem to be going in circles , I tried it with CEE b4 and ifoupdate gave me an error aswell , more cells than original , this is a single pgc aswell ,I dont know where I am going wrong , it must be to do with the update

I had that problem for a while doing full backups of my DVD's.
Finally got a solution from these boards.
Use ImgTools to create an img file then use DVD Decrypter to burn it off.

Worked 100% for me.

[jdobbs]

@all

Attached is a new version (V0.16) of MakeItEasy. This version eliminates the problem when doing a VTS with VOBIDs greater than 70. I think that may have been the cause of a lot more problems than I ever thought possible.

@dvdRENEGADE

I'm still looking at "Transfer Time Map" -- it gets a little more difficult in MakeItEasy than IFOUpdate. In all the examples I've tried so far the newly created table is too large to transfer. This is due to the entries in the table caused by the padding.

[alanrob]

Again, top mark to the top guy :D
Your a star ;)

[Will Hay]

Originally posted by coach
Instead of starting a new thread I have posted this here bacause we are talking about the same program. I have tried to put 2 large DVD's through the process and have come up against the same problem. I am using the latest version of Make it Easy. I have managed to reduce the size of the movie to fit onto DVD-r but there are problems. The chapters do not point to the correct point in the movie, out of 24 chapters only 11 of them take me to somewhere in the movie the rest of them take me back to the titles menu. The main movie was in VTS_02 which meant I had to change the numbers after running IfoEdit and before putting the files back into the Original folder, is there anything wrong with this. The other thing is if I try to play the movie back through IfoEdit when it gets to the point to play the movie title set it stops and begins to squeele, the program must then be closed down. The movie plays OK with Power DVD. Any Ideas.
Coach.

Hi Coach,
I'm having what sounds like the same problem (or similar) to you:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45978
Let me know if you solve it buddy and I'll do the same.
Thanks,
Will

[jdobbs]

I'm sure there is something wrong. Several people have reported it. But unfortunately I haven't been able to repeat it. I have successfully tested this program on at least 30 DVDs and it has not resulted in bad chapter pointers on a single disc.

I'm willing to take the time to work on it, but I need the people who experience it to take an active role also. The three IFO files would be a good start -- the new IFO, the original, and the one after updating.

[coach]

Hi Will
I have given up trying to put movies that are way too big through the process, I think the problem lies in the movie containing multiple PGC's. There is a way around it but it takes too much time when you really don't know what your doing. I am in the process in downloading another program demo that allows you to copy 1-1 even DVD9 to DVDr. The site is really slow, I have been on all day downloading 14.5MB.
Best of luck with make it easy
Coach.

[jdobbs]

You know -- I think that pretty much makes up my mind for me. I've been asking myself why I waste my time writing these free utilities for people -- all I ask in return is that if you have a problem with it, you somehow help identify the cause -- but that is apparently too much to ask.

Next time I'll write it and keep it to myself.

[coach]

jdobbs
You have taken my reply and blown it out of all proportion. I am a novice at all this ripping, I can only handle small rips and burns. What I said was that I had given up tryimg to put really large DVD's through the process not all dvd's. I have tried to overcome the problems that I have come across by following some of the other directions on the site but I am afraid it is beyond my knowledge and capabilities, for me to spend all day trying to do something with no results and not to understand how and why it went wrong is like knocking my head against a wall. At least you and others have a greater understanding of what is supposed to happen and can understand it. I along with everyone else appreciate all the long and hard work that you and other people carry ouy to bring us these programs. Please do not think that I have given up on you.
Thanks for all the good work and please do not give up.
Coach.

[dvdRENEGADE]

jdobbs,
I think most people who are having problems with MakeItEasy would have problems with just about any program. I think a thread started by you asking for success stories and problem dvd's would be very beneficial and would help to eliminate alot of the false negatives when people are mistaking their problems with MakeItEasy.

A little tip for some of you:
If you can't get any DVD backups to work with MakeItEasy, it's obviously YOUR fault.

I hope you reconsider jdobbs because there are definitely many people who appreciate all you've done and continue to do for the hobby. Personally, I've tried the InstantCopy demo and it looks like a nice piece of work, but I'm definitely watching out for further releases of MakeItEasy as well. It's the only reliable way to make complete 1:1 backups quickly using DVD2One.

Peace,
dvdRENEGADE

[jdobbs]

@dvdRENEGADE,

I downloaded InstantCopy earlier today, it looks promising. I just started my first job about 20 minutes ago to see how it works... and I just noticed the app is locked up. I'll try it again later. (just to be fair to Pinnacle -- I was attempting "Blow" and I have yet to find any other technique the works with it).

I knew when I wrote MakeItEasy that it would have a short lifespan. DVD2one was already scheduled (sometime "soon") to include the only value-added function it provides anyway. So there's really not a lot of incentive to working on it any more.

[Will Hay]

Originally posted by dvdRENEGADE
I think most people who are having problems with MakeItEasy would have problems with just about any program.

You're an ignorant idiot.
I needed a little guidance on using it because much like poor coach who's been singled out as an ungrateful bastard when clearly he's not.
He probably replied to my post *before* he saw jdobbs kind enough to assist.
Poor bastard, give the guy a break.
The intent of his post was that he was struggling to understand the finer points of the program, and that as he's such a novice (as I am) he was struggling to understand what was needed and more so, from my point of veiw at least, didn't know what half the terminology the more experienced users like yourself use in your 'pen up your arse' indignant replies even mean.

Originally posted by dvdRENEGADE
A little tip for some of you:
If you can't get any DVD backups to work with MakeItEasy, it's obviously YOUR fault.


Now you're just being a prick.
I don't pretend to know everything about this program, what I do know is that many, many contacts I've made through vcdhelp.com, doom9.org and the dvd2one forum are using MakeItEasy with 100% success so yes WE KNOW if it ain't working it's 99% our fault and not the programmes.
Speaking for the my own race, humankind, I don't intend to watch these backups on a 62" plasma friggin' screen and pause it at every chapter to compare it to the original - we don't care that much. What we do appreciate is a simple to use cheap programme that will do a half-decent job.
And we do appreciate it, we just don't take kindly to f*ckwits like yourself.
I've had one guy talk me through the process on msn messenger to make sure the problems I'm experiencing aren't my own making, so who the hell do you think you are acusing me of stupidity?
Sorry, you're an idiot, I forgot.
...
To jdobbs, from your last post I'm guessing (again, as I'm a novice) you want each ifo from each of the following processes, right?
1) the one prepared by the original rip
2) the one produced after dvd2one has finished and
3) the final one after step 5 of your program
Have I interpreted your post correctly?
I've done two dvd's (one the 'simpsons' and one 'red dwarf') and also have a third (containing six episodes) which a friend has backed up successfully using the same method (dvd2one and MakeItEasy).
I'll do the same disk this week (I have it too, Pheonix Nights) and if I don't get it right then it's clearly my own making.
If it does work then it's perhaps an issue with the first two disks I tried.
May I also add I've had 100% success with MakeItEasy and *movies*, the ones that are the problem are indiv. episodes such as the ones mentioned above.
Regards,
Will

[jdobbs]

Man, and I thought I was being too sensitive...

[Will Hay]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Man, and I thought I was being too sensitive...

If you were you didn't say so :)
Not knowing where the hell in the world you are it seems to be customary in the UK to start every sentence with "I'm sorry but...".
Not for me, I won't stand for ignorance.
W.

[dvdRENEGADE]

Will Hay,
Wow. I wish I had your spare time.
Peace,
dvdRENEGADE

[Will Hay]

Originally posted by dvdRENEGADE
Will Hay,
Wow. I wish I had your spare time.


That's an insult right?
Thanks for taking the time.

Originally posted by dvdRENEGADE
Peace,


Is that your first or second name, or a proclamation?
I won't spoil the thread - God bless.
Will Hay

[dvdRENEGADE]

jdobbs,
Speaking of InstantCopy, I've done 2 titles with it so far...Spider-Man and Dumbo (for my nephew...hehe...yeah right), it's worked very well. You gotta love the option to set priority for transcoding. Even the Spider Sense is working on the Spider-Man DVD. I would've been better off just buying a 2nd copy of Spider-Man as the backup because I always seem to be trying a new method, etc. with it. Well, MakeItEasy worked for the time it was needed...however short-lived. I guess I'll probably be using Scenarist, Maestro, CCE, and all the other dozens of programs a little less than I did. It sucks kinda. I guess I'll have to find another hobby...hehe.
dvdRENEGADE

[luukluuk]

uh when you made your NEW ifos and vobs with ifoedit

and open them with dvd2one the audio and subs are UNSPECIFIED ( so you cant see wath language it is :/ is there a trick that you can see that? :)

[dvdRENEGADE]

You can load up the original .ifo into IfoEdit and view the audio and sub languages, etc. They'll be in the same order as the ones created by IfoEdit in the DVD2ONE directory.
dvdRENEGADE

[jdobbs]

@dvdRENEGADE,

Check your PM...

[dvdRENEGADE]

jdobbs,
check your pm

[OsirisMedia01]

Whilst I see most of us are busily using Instant Copy at this point in time, due to the fact that I cannot download it at this point in time im stuck with Make it easy DVD2One and IFO edit.

Anyway I get upto step 3 in Makeit easy, but for some reason the IFOS created by IFO edit are not readable with DVD2One, once it goes to start transcoding I get an error, every time, any help?


Thanks.

[Will Hay]

Originally posted by OsirisMedia01
Whilst I see most of us are busily using Instant Copy at this point in time, due to the fact that I cannot download it at this point in time im stuck with Make it easy DVD2One and IFO edit.


YOu're 'stuck with' make it easy?
stuck with?
Be careful what you say here all you'll have the jdobbs sycophants crawling all over you ;)
W.

[jdobbs]

Sycophant? Now there's a word that doesn't come up often in a conversation... did you go to Oxford or Cambridge?

[Will Hay]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Sycophant? Now there's a word that doesn't come up often in a conversation

I would have made it simple and used the term 'arse-kissers' but didn't want to fall into the same band as some of your followers

Originally posted by jdobbs
.... did you go to Oxford or Cambridge?

Oxford or Cambridge?
I went shopping in Oxford once, bought a pair of trousers and an audio cd
W.

[Will Hay]

Originally posted by Will Hay
I went shopping in Oxford once, bought a pair of trousers and an audio cd

And an ice-cream, think it was a '99'.
W.

[dvdRENEGADE]

@OsirisMedia01

As of now, InstantCopy can be downloaded from the following address.

http://www.leidigs.de/downloads/instantcopydemo.zip

You'll need to copy this address into your browser and hit enter to download it.
Good luck,
dvdRENEGADE

@Will Hay

If you'd spend less time with the dictionary and more time with the search box on this page, you might actually solve some of the many problems you're experiencing with video editing. Otherwise, you're just cluttering the forums with worthless babble. I'm learning that when I see the little Will Hay picture in a thread, It's either a question (usually in the wrong forum) or a useless long-winded diatribe. Now, try that search box...it won't bite.
Good luck,
dvdRENEGADE

[Antonio S.]

dvdRENEGADE said:@Will Hay

If you'd spend less time with the dictionary and more time with the search box on this page, you might actually solve some of the many problems you're experiencing with video editing. Otherwise, you're just cluttering the forums with worthless babble.I'm learning that when I see the little Will Hay picture in a thread, It's either a question (usually in the wrong forum) or a useless long-winded diatribe. Now, try that search box...it won't bite. You really are going to kill me!!! I am still laughing, HA, HA, HA, HA...

[OsirisMedia01]

Thanks for the link mate.

I wasnt kncoking the app either, sorry as it came out that way I was just rather irrated at IFO edit I guess, and I figured since make it easy reffered to using IFOedit maybe someone else had encountered a similar problem.

But yeah very hady app none the less dude, just out of sheer frustration at getting this backup to work im gonna keep stomping on the ol fashioned way, none of this instant copy stuff, hehe yet :P

[Will Hay]

Originally posted by dvdRENEGADE
If you'd spend less time with the dictionary and more time with the search box on this page, you might actually solve some of the many problems you're experiencing with video editing. Otherwise, you're just cluttering the forums with worthless babble. I'm learning that when I see the little Will Hay picture in a thread, It's either a question (usually in the wrong forum) or a useless long-winded diatribe. Now, try that search box...it won't bite.
Good luck,

Please feel free to demonstrate the mistakes I'm making in posting in the wrong forum, I'm not proud enough *not* to learn from my mistakes.
I seem to remember doing this once so clearly this is a punishable offence and worthy of mentioning, my, erm, apologies, perhaps?
Please feel free to request my advice on any words over three syllables ("id-i-ot" for example) you're having trouble with.
Please feel free to demonstrate what's wrong with 'it's [either] a question...or", I thought this was the purpose of any forum.
...As far as I can tell the only advice I've sought recently is a problem I've had with MakeItEasy, a problem I believe the author has acknowledged.
I was quite happy to provide the information the author requested, but sought clarification as to what *exactly* I was required to do.
I also recently posted a problem I had with TMPGEnc and later solved it, and you'll notice I posted the remedy this morning to assist anyone else having the same problem.
Now young-un (as we say on my particular part of the planet earth), if you hadn't been so ignorant in your first post to [username] coach I wouldn't be dug deep in your subconscious right now, and we wouldn't be having this hellish dialogue at this very moment.
I believe I made a comment in my last thread about not spoiling the forum and I intend to hold to this, even if you do not.
I suggest you contact me via personal message and we can continue your tuition in the appropriate medium.
Oh, and 'If you'd spend less time with the dictionary'?
Are you insulting my grasp of the English language?
In a language perhaps even you would understand....
"....ug ug ug - get real"
As I mentioned ('menshund') above, please feel free to contact me via PM, you have nothing to offer me in this forum other than intellectual ignorance.
Will Hay

[Krisaore]

Very pretty application yours jdobbs!
I've done Mission Impossible 2 and Pulp Fiction, both pal version..
I haven't tried the new dvd2one release yet, I've heard InstatCopy do that shitty job very nice..I'll be judging what's the better way.

My pc sucks..I've made mission impossible in 8hours in the complex..
550mhz my CPU :(

Byebye!

[flouger]

Tell em how it is Will Hay Tell em how it is

[TRILIGHT]

Originally posted by flouger
Tell em how it is Will Hay Tell em how it is
Yeah, I have to say that Will's independant thought is a refreshing change from most of the mindless drivel I've seen around lately. ;)

[Eyes`Only]

I'm posting just so I stay subscribed to this thread! I was just about to unsubscribe from it because it's obviously of no use to me, but then "Along comes Will!"

Thanks, Will! Your commentary has brightened our lives. I've started a fan club for you in #doom9, we're all waiting to see who challenges you next! LOL

[HeeD]

Sorry to bud-in on this little soap-opera but I got a question:

Since DVD2One 1.01 release allowing to set the target size, is MakeItEasy still useful for anything?

Is there plans to turn it into a better helper program to keep track of VOBs etc. for purposes of backing up full DVD ?

[int 21h]

This thread has turned into a big flame war, I think my eyebrows have been singed, and I haven't even posted yet.

I think we all need to just step away from the keyboard for a moment, take a deep breath, come back, hook jdobbs up with the stuff he needs to fix his program, and move on!

I leave you with this...
Originally from Lester Bangs (Almost Famous)
The only true currency in this bankrupt world...is what you share with someone else when you're uncool.


My friends, we should all feel 'rich' after this thread.

[emistral]

@jdobbs:
so far I have backed up the entire Xfiles season 1 with the combined method makeiteasy+dvd2one.
Worked perfectly.
Not problem at all, chapter points matched perfectly

Ok the DVD might be easy since there is only 1 VTS, no angle but I was pretty happy to see that I could have the video not jerky while with CCE, the video was jerky on the TV.

I have going to try now Minority report since I have seen that it was a more or less complicated DVD.
I let you know

anyway good job

[TRILIGHT]

Originally posted by emistral
while with CCE, the video was jerky on the TV.

FYI for those unfamiliar... this is a problem with the configuration and not the tool itself. Chances are, you were supposed to IVTC and you didn't.

[dvdRENEGADE]

@emistral
X-Files Season One Region 1 was a hybrid title, which mixes both progressive and interlaced frames. I made a backup of it using CCE/Scenarist and encoded it as interlaced. The playback was flawless. You could run in through Decomb and save a little bitrate, but that can be hit and miss in certain situations. I doubt you will need that information now that there are much quicker options available, but there it is just in case.
dvdRENEGADE

[Eyes`Only]

You encoded an IVTC stream as interlaced? I've never heard of that working correctly before. You didn't use Telecide() at all? Or FieldDeinterlace()?

[dvdRENEGADE]

@Eyes`Only

I don't understand why everyone always recommends a Decomb IVTC with a hybrid source. In my opinion, interlaced is the best way to encode hybrid material. I used it with X-Files Season DVDs and a few of the Star Trek movies which had several interlaced portions within the mostly progressive movie. Of course, you could run it through Decomb and have room for a higher bitrate. Just encoding it all as interlaced guarantees a smooth flawless playback everytime, but remember to uncheck top field first within CCE 2.5. It always encodes top field first whether this is checked or not. Otherwise, you'll get the stutters.
dvdRENEGADE

P.S.
I live in the states, so this option may not particularly be your best option.

[Will Hay]

I'm sorry to disapoint you folks but all lil' old Will from 'lil old England has to contribute right now is :o
I'm all embarrassed!
Can I be a moderator now please? ;) ;) :D :D :D :D
Will :)

[The_Flash]

For hybrid material you could also try just using the Telecide() function to clean things up without decimating any frames.
Also, "Decimate(mode=1,threshold=50)" works well for hybrids.


Originally posted by emistral

I have going to try now Minority report since I have seen that it was a more or less complicated DVD.
I let you know


I'm going to have to say "less." In fact, I don't think it comes any easier for a DVD-9 than this. All extras are on a 2nd disc, the main movie is in the first title set, and each of these title sets are single PGC.

@Will Hay: Ug Ug!

[Eyes`Only]

Yeah I agree. Minority Report was VERY easy to do.

I've never understood the mode=1 switch. It says in the documentation that it causes it to make a decision of which frames to drop. But if you don't use cycle=5 you don't drop any frames anyway!? I've ran this one around my community, no one had an explanation. I've noticed if you do cycle=5,mode=1 it just ignores the cycle=5 also. So can you explain what in the world mode=1 does? I've had users try mode=1 vs. no Decimate at all and they didn't see a difference.