How do I chop 7 seconds off the end of a VOB?

[snidely]

I didn't know where else to post this, so I figured I would try here. I have a ripped DVD that is just 7 seconds too long to fit on a DVD-R, and I have squeezed it in every way possible, short of re-encoding it. I am looking for a tool that I can just dump a VOB into and then cut 210 frames off of the end, like trimming a fingernail. I don't want to demux, convert to AVI or such, but am just looking for a simple "VOB clipper" so I don't have to turn this into an afternoon's project. Does such a tool exist? VOBEdit seemed to come close, but it would only let me demux into cells or VobIDs, and I've already gotten rid of everything I can. I can't get rid of the end credits, as the last cell of the movie goes into the credits and does not take up a separate cell. I just want to clip 7 seconds off the end of the credits, nice and simple. Any ideas?

[nameless1]

I believe you can do it with TMPGEnc.

Did you try going to File -> MPEG Tools -> Merge & Cut?

[nameless1]

nevermind...

[Navellint]

ChopperXP (http://com2.net/digitalminer/chopperxp.html) did some wonderful things for me. Regards and GL

edit: correct link

[snidely]

ChopperXP did some wonderful things for me. Regards and GL

Perfect! I just grabbed the program and tried it out. Just what the doctor ordered. Thanks, Navellint!

In case anyone else is trying to get the file, here is the correct link:

http://com2.net/digitalminer/chopperxp.html

(NL, you just had one "http://" too many in your link :) )

[Navellint]

tnx, i must have been .... whatever.

Don't you just love these tools that are so incredibly aptly named? DVD decrypter, avimux, chopperxp, ac3dec, subrip, oggmux, antifreeze, forceaspi, filemerger, ifoedit, I thought XviD was nice too, and last but not least: DeCSS (http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article.jhtml?articleID=466519) !!!

[Videogamer555]

ChopperXP (http://com2.net/digitalminer/chopperxp.html) did some wonderful things for me. Regards and GL

edit: correct link


Unfortunately Chopper XP is only down to the "second" of accuracy. I need frame-number accuracy. I have a VOB file that contains a SPECIFIC scene I want, and when one scene fades out and then in less than half of a second the next one fades in. And I don't don't want to have to reencode it or convert it (so Total Video Converter, and 99% of other software is COMPLETELY OUT OF THE QUESTION). I just want to clip the already existing VOB file.

Even worse is the fact that the VOB file in question is not a complete movie in one file, but rather the fourth in a set that together make a complete movie. And Chopper XP was confused by this because it called it "non standard". You see the time code for it corresponds to the actual movie time so for example in a 1h,10m,0s movie, the time 1h,0m,5s if the last VOB file started at at movie-time of 1h, would correspond to 5s in VOB-time. But the VOB was NOT encoded with VOB-time, but rather was encoded with movie-time. So when Chopper XP read 1h,0m,5s from the VOB file it thought it was in VOB-time (but it wasn't), and it couldn't find the point in the VOB file for that time (which would correspond to a point WAY beyond the end of the VOB file if it was in VOB-time as Chopper XP expected). This means that whatever program I use will have to be able to work with both movie-time (absolute time) encoded VOB files, and VOB-time (relative time) VOB files.

Please name for me some software that will do this. Thanks in advance.

[neuron2]

You cannot cut at arbitrary frames without reencoding.

You can use a smart rendering software, however, that reencodes only the needed frames near the cut. One example is VideoRedo.

[Videogamer555]

You cannot cut at arbitrary frames without reencoding.

You can use a smart rendering software, however, that reencodes only the needed frames near the cut. One example is VideoRedo.

I forgot to mention this.

Even worse is the fact that the VOB file in question is not a complete movie in one file, but rather the fourth in a set that together make a complete movie. And Chopper XP was confused by this because it called it "non standard". You see the time code for it corresponds to the actual movie time so for example in a 1h,10m,0s movie, the time 1h,0m,5s if the last VOB file started at at movie-time of 1h,0m,0s, would correspond to 5s in VOB-time. But the VOB was NOT encoded with VOB-time, but rather was encoded with movie-time. So when Chopper XP read 1h,0m,5s from the VOB file it thought it was in VOB-time (but it wasn't), and it couldn't find the point in the VOB file for that time (which would correspond to a point WAY beyond the end of the VOB file if it was in VOB-time as Chopper XP expected). This means that whatever program I use will have to be able to work with both movie-time (absolute time) encoded VOB files, and VOB-time (relative time) VOB files.

Any software that will handle THIS problem?

[neuron2]

You can rip your DVD to one VOB file. Or you can join the VOBs to one file using DOS COPY /B.

[Videogamer555]

You can rip your DVD to one VOB file. Or you can join the VOBs to one file using DOS COPY /B.

I don't have that luxury. My VOBs are copied straight from the DVD. I'm trying to avoid unnecessary reencodings such as rewriting 4 VOBs as 1 VOB. Besides, the Last VOB is the one that has the scene I'm interested in. I don't want to waste harddrive space by adding needless VOBs.

[neuron2]

Too bad, so sad.

You have to massage your source into a form that the smart rendering tools can accept. If you refuse to do that, then how can we help you?

Concatenate the VOBs and then delete the pieces to recover your hard drive space. Is it so hard?

[victorth]

I don't have that luxury. My VOBs are copied straight from the DVD. I'm trying to avoid unnecessary reencodings such as rewriting 4 VOBs as 1 VOB. Besides, the Last VOB is the one that has the scene I'm interested in. I don't want to waste harddrive space by adding needless VOBs.

Perhaps I don't understand the problem. But since you have an entire DVD ripped, and therefore presumably have a complete DVD structure (VIDEO_TS folder) I'd just let DVDShrink shrink the entire thing and make the burnable .ISO file at the same time. Or if all you've ripped is just the main movie then use DVDShrink's reauthor function to cut off some frames from either the ending credits or the opening scene.

[Ghitulescu]

I use too DVD shrink to cut off (GOP-wise) some logos at the beginning or some logos at the end, without having any adverse effects (it rumors that there might be a problem therewith).

[Sharc]

You can also cut parts of a cell with VobBlanker.