problem with finished sizes of cd's

[floslap]

Hi I did some searching on the subject but didn't really find any answers. Here is my problem: I converted a dvd to an xsvcd with dvd2svcd. The movie was 121 min and 51 sec long and I chose to put it on 4 cd's. In the bitrate window my settings were 4 cd's for movies between 121 and 163 and the bitrate it gave was 3379-2447. I have my bitrates set as such, 5500 max, 2000 min, and 3500 max avg. BBMpeg created 3 cd's at 796 and 1 cd at 306. I wanted 4 cd's at 796 megs each so I'm not really sure what happened. Here is my log. Btw I ran out of disk space -lol- so I had to do the cutting my self with the mpv and m2v file that dvd2svcd created and also the finished mpg after i multiplexed it was 2.63 gigs...Thanks for any
help


WNASPI32.DLL 4.6.0.1021
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- 08/01/2003 8:19:14 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.1.0 build 1c
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 08/01/2003 8:19:17 PM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- e:\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"e:\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[e:\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[E:\VTS_06_1.vob,E:\VTS_06_2.vob,E:\VTS_06_3.vob,E:\VTS_06_4.vob,E:\VTS_06_5.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Force Film activated!
Framerate: 23976
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 08/01/2003 8:21:21 PM
- Free on drive e: 7435.80 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: e:\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: 6 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 08/01/2003 8:24:43 PM
- Free on drive e: 7044.08 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: e:\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"e:\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "e:\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "e:\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "e:\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -ota( -d 6 ) -2lame( -e -b 224 -m s )
Audio conversion of e:\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 08/01/2003 8:41:40 PM
- Free on drive e: 6848.21 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 3337143152
AudioSectors: 208462800
VideoPAPO: 48464928
ScanOffsetBytes: 211028
SeqAligningBytes: 13412027
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 16
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 0.00
PureMPEGStream: 3066592352.40
Seconds: 7345.71
CalcMPEGStream: 3066592352.40
Frames: 175857
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 4
Cut point 796.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 175857
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 5
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 2000
Max. bitrate: 5500
Avg. Bitrate: 3339
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("E:\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\MPEG2D~1.DLL")
mpeg2source("e:\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
BicubicResize(480,360,0.0,0.6)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 1.280
Video Encoding finished.

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- 09/01/2003 6:12:28 AM
- Free on drive e: 4314.16 mb
- Video Pulldown
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Executing Pulldown. Commandline:
"e:\DVD2SVCD\pulldown\pulldown.exe" "e:\Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv" "e:\Pulldown_Encoded_Video_NTSC.mpv"
Video pulldown finished.

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- 09/01/2003 6:19:43 AM
- Free on drive e: 1823.07 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: e:\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 09/01/2003 6:19:45 AM
- Free on drive e: 1823.07 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: e:\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 09/01/2003 6:19:47 AM
- Free on drive e: 1823.07 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: e:\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 09/01/2003 6:19:50 AM
- Free on drive e: 1823.07 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: e:\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 796 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"e:\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "e:\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of e:\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2034 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 2036
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 796 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"e:\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "e:\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of e:\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2337 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 4373
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 796 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"e:\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "e:\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
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[RB]

To fill four CDs, you'll have to raise your max. average bitrate to say, 5000.

[hoozdapimp]

just to add a little to what RB said, if CCE didn't "think" it would need to use 4 full cd's worth it won't do it...sometimes, you know, adding extra bits to the bitrate will produce worse video quality, hence the reason why cce "shorted" you.

[RB]

Well, it's not CCE that limits the bitrate but DVD2SVCD. DVD2SVCD calculates the average bitrate according to the movie length and number of CDs specified. Then if that bitrate exceeds the max. average bitrate specified on the Bitrate tab, bitrate is cut to that limit. Then the bitrate is handed over to CCE via the ECL file. But that's all described in the Q&A.

[winxi]

@RB:
He wrote, that he had set max average bitrate to 3500. According to his log the used average bitrate was 3339, so in this case it wasn´t limited by the max average bitrate.

@floslap:
I think that such a high bitrate for SVCDs is madness. Or are you processing some kind of mini DVD? What about trying the standard settings?

winxi

[floslap]

thanks for the input guys and winxi im kind of a quality freak and i find that it makes a difference with the way i encode. my main goal is for the encode to look just like a dvd, and with the settings i use i cant tell the difference between dvd and xsvcd.