Maestro says audio shorter than video

[framerman]

I'm sorry if this is in the wrong forum. I don't know if it belongs in audio or authoring.

I am trying to author Oceans Eleven. Up front, I think the mistake I made was not stripping out VOB Id2 in ifoedit. But nonetheless, it's there. I used dvd2avi for the d2v & ac3 file. AviSynth & CCE to reencode the video. When I get set to author in Maestro, the movie length says 1:56:50:15. The audio is 1:56:42:21. About 8 seconds off. I've tried getting a different audio from vobedit, but it gives me the same exact size file and length. The audio starts off on the movie right at VOB Id 1, which is the WB screen with their little jingle, and then the audio jumps to VOB Id 3. VOB Id 2 is the ratings screen PG-13 or whatever it says. This immediately gives me out of sync by 7 or 8 seconds. Now ifoedit says the vob id 2 stream is 7 seconds long, and I'm thinking this is it. But how do I go about adding 7 second in between the two vob id's that are already encoded? It might be easier for me to reencode the movie again, but it takes so long, I'm hoping someone might have an answer as to how to do this.

I'm not even sure about this, but couldn't I strip the audio somehow to include the vob id 2 in the audio stream, even though there is no audio? This would seem like the quickest solution.

[oddyseus]

u said it yourself. After pgc1 u go to pgc3. In between there is 8 secs delay for pg ratings that r audioless.

In Scenarist is fairly easy to create 3 pgc that start at the right spot and have the right audio. In Maestro u have to cut the video in 2 places, remove the middle pgc2 and put them at the end, if u want them. Then with playlists u can recreate the original inbetween structure. Showtime R2 uses the same feature, placing the trailer between the studio logo and the start of the movie.

[framerman]

Thanks oddyseus for the reply.

What I did to work around this is to run the original vob's through dvd2avi again. Then I clipped the movie after pgc2, and ran it just to extract the audio. I used the extracted audio with the m2v file that contained all 3 pgc's. In Maestro, I dragged the audio to line up with the end of the movie, so the beginning intro with the warner brothers logo, contains no sound (pgc1), and the ratings screen doesn't contain sound either (pgc2). The sound then starts at pgc3. It came into sync beautifully.

This worked for the situation, but out of it came a little playback problem that I'm not sure is related to the audio sync. About 2/3rd's of the way through, the movie crashed in my settop player. During the muxing in Maestro, it says that there were problems with the remux. There were some overflows because of the encoding rate exceeding the maximum allowed. I think I'm just talking out loud, but do I just lower the encode rate in CCE from 9800 to something like 9000 to prevent video overflows? I would appreciate it if you could confirm this for me.

[oddyseus]

yes. Apparrently the complexity of the scene caused the combined bitrate of audio video and the rest of the channels to overflow. I believe 9000kbs should do the trick.

[discutter]

I have a similar sort of problem with Kate and Leopold on NTSC R1, I normally just rip the main movie then re-author with spruce up (cos Im lazy) and with this one I got a report of an audio error and after 15 mins of the film the sound and vid goes out of sink, so I followed the "DVD-9 to DVD-5 " Full copy " Intructions " to the letter of the law and the same thing happens, so I tried using Scenerist instead and it wont let me import the audio saying its incorrectly referenced... Any ideas??