Default subtitles in IfoEdit movie only method

[GrandMstrBud]

I use the IfoEdit movie only method to strip out the movie only and usually keep the English subtitles. I sometimes keep all of them depending on the size of the movie. Whenever I use this method and play it in a standalone DVD player the subtitles come on by default. I would like them not to come on by default and only use them when I want to. I also had one movie (Ice Age R1) that starts to play the directors commentary when I put it on one of my two DVD players. I made sure that I turned of the captions opion on both of my DVD players also. I've done plenty of reading and tried a few things but nothing seems to work. Can anyone help me out on this or point me to a guide?
Thanks

[GrandMstrBud]

Does anyone know how to fix this? I've tried adding pre-commands to turn off the subs and that did not work. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

[Slimboy Fat]

Just a quick reply to bring this post back to the top...

Does anybody know the answer for this problem.


TIA :D
Slimboy Fat

[2COOL]

Read up in this...I think there's an answer to your guys question. They talk about turning ON and OFF subtitles.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35660&perpage=20&highlight=turning%20on%20subtitles&pagenumber=2

[GrandMstrBud]

Thanks for the quick responce. I read though that forum more than once and when I try that method my subtitles still come on by default. I made sure to check the options in each of my DVD players and they are both off. When I author a movie with the menu they do not come on by default. It seems that it only turns on the subtitles does this with the movie only method. Anyone else have any more ideas?

[Xtech]

are u familiar with ifoedit vob Extra option ??:sly:
if so stripp the streams and subtitles u want to keep on your dvd.
this way u dont have to see the subtitles.

[GrandMstrBud]

Yes, that's how I've been doing them. I normally keep only the English subtitles and leave the rest out. What I want to happen when I play the movie in my home DVD player is for the movie to start playing without the subtitles. I hardly ever use them but just in case I do in the future I want to have the option of turning them on. I can turn them off now but it gets annoying every time I put in a movie and they come on automatically.

[Xtech]

Humm !! that would have to be done manually. well using your finger that is others like to refer to it by remote!! :D
With that big round (ocasionally) square Button in your remote that says "SUB-T".

[Xtech]

seems that most manufactures set up their players that most of the time a new tittle DVD is inserted it would turn on the caption for the subtittles any how. have you try to place another dvd title without turning the player of after a movie?

[GrandMstrBud]

Yes, I've tried other movies that I reauthored with a menu and they do not come on by default. Just the ones that I keep the movie only. I think I have it figured out though. I will post my results when I get a chance to burn it to a RW and test it.

[GrandMstrBud]

I finally got it to work. Thanks to alot of reading on here and some testing I can now put in my DVDR's and the subtitles do not come on automatically.

[Slimboy Fat]

GrandMstrBud: Any chance of letting us in on the secret :D

[GrandMstrBud]

I finally put together a guide to prevent the default subtitles from appearing automatically when you use the IFO Edit movie only method. I also added how to set your default audio stream. Hopefully this will help some people out.


1. First open the VTS_01_0.IFO file with IFO Edit v0.95.
2. Click on the VTS_PGCITI, the third line from the top, and you will see a sub-category.
3. Click on the VTS_PGC_1.
4. On the bottom window of IFO Edit, look for the description of “Size of Command table in bytes” or the address of [000000f4].
5. Right click on that line and click Add Precommand.
6. You will now see the precommand that you added and it will have a value of 00.
7. Double click on the precommand that you just created and you will get a HexEdit Module window.
8. Now you can edit the command to set your default audio streams and default subtitles.
9. To set the default audio language you would type in the following hex value:
“51 00 00 80 00 00 00”.
10. To keep your subtitles from turning on automatically you would type in the following hex value:
“51 00 00 00 9f 00 00 00”.
11. In this example I set the default audio language to the audio ID of 0x80 and the subtitles are set not to come on by default.
12. Finally, don’t forget to save your changes and be sure to keep a backup of your original IFO file.

[Slimboy Fat]

Thanks for that, I will give it a try.... :D

[GrandMstrBud]

Just a quick reply to bring this post back to the top...

[2COOL]

@GrandMstrBud

Since you brought this back up, I like to make some comments on your guide.

Originally posted by GrandMstrBud

8. Now you can edit the command to set your default audio streams and default subtitles.
9. To set the default audio language you would type in the following hex value: “51 00 00 80 00 00 00”.
10. To keep your subtitles from turning on automatically you would type in the following hex value: “51 00 00 00 9f 00 00 00”.
If you wanted to do both of these actions, you can consolidate them into one command instead of two. Here's the hex value.

(SetSTN) Set Audio Stream: 0 Subpicture Stream: 31(Off)...[51 00 00 80 9f 00 00 00]

11. ... and the subtitles are set not to come on by default.
A DVD movie can have up to 32 subtitles. There is a very high probability that one does not have a 31st subtitle present so by setting the default to 31, this will work. If 32 subs are present, I would just strip the last two, 31 and 32, so that setting subtitle 31 will still work.

[ales19]

Originally posted by GrandMstrBud

1. First open the VTS_01_0.IFO file with IFO Edit v0.95.
2. Click on the VTS_PGCITI, the third line from the top, and you will see a sub-category.
3. Click on the VTS_PGC_1.
4. On the bottom window of IFO Edit, look for the description of “Size of Command table in bytes” or the address of [000000f4].
5. Right click on that line and click Add Precommand.
6. You will now see the precommand that you added and it will have a value of 00.
7. Double click on the precommand that you just created and you will get a HexEdit Module window.
8. Now you can edit the command to set your default audio streams and default subtitles.
9. To set the default audio language you would type in the following hex value:
“51 00 00 80 00 00 00”.
10. To keep your subtitles from turning on automatically you would type in the following hex value:
“51 00 00 00 9f 00 00 00”.
11. In this example I set the default audio language to the audio ID of 0x80 and the subtitles are set not to come on by default.
12. Finally, don’t forget to save your changes and be sure to keep a backup of your original IFO file.

first of all i would like to thank you for this very helpful tip, it prooved to be very usefull to prevent those annoying subs from auto-activating themselves :P
anyway i just wanted to add that a more user-friendly method to do points from 7 onwards. the sequence would be something like this:

7. Right click on the precommand that you just created (which is currently labeled as NOP) and choose "edit command" from the menu, you will get a window with a drop down menu
8. To set the default audio language you must choose the "Set Audio Stream Nr" option. at this point a new drop down menu will appear in the window, in which you choose the stream you want to be set as default (0 for the first, 1 for the second, etc)
9. To set the subtitle stream choose "Set Subpicture Stream Nr"from the first menu and then the selected stream from the second menu that appears (it is best if you choose stream 31 because this way you are pretty sure to point to an empty sub stream since most movies dont have that many sub languages :) )

i think that with this method it is easyer for newbies (like myself) to understand wich stream you are actually choosing... :)