DVD Functionality Lost

[BobC]

I have decrypted “Training Day” in both FILE and IFO mode using DVD Decrypter v3.1.4.0 and have come across several problems. Because I am new at this, I suppose these problems could be known limitations or end-user-error, but I have been unsuccessful to find these problems discussed in the guides, FAQ’s or anywhere else that I looked. Below are the problems I ran into and am hoping this forum can find the solution for me.

1) Regardless if I play the movie from the hard drive or from a burned DVD, the WinDVD v2.8 player does not recognize the files as a DVD and therefore requires me to create a playlist of the 6 VOB files. (This alone prevents me from using the burned DVD in a standard household player).

2) Although the original DVD and copy both have 6 VOB’s, the chapter count (listed in WinDVD) goes from the original 28 chapters to 6.

3) I understand that the VTS_02_0.VOB is the main menu VOB. I noticed DVD Decrypter does not copy this file or the VIDEO_TS.IFO file to the hard drive. Because I want the main menu functionality, I have manually selected these files to be copied over as well.
Although the main menu does display (and play), it has lost its PC like automation in that there is no cursor to select items such as: Play Movie, Scene Selections, Special Features and Languages. Instead the main menu just plays straight through just like a movie.

4) Once the movie starts, the language is in French (even though the default language of 0x80 is English). French is listed in the “Stream Processing” tab (of DVD Decrypter) as 0x81 and the director notes are 0x82. As the movie plays, the language changes from French to director notes and then back again. (This happens on chapter / file boundaries).

5) WinDVD functionality such as “Subtitle” and “Audio” selections are grayed out and not functional.

I suppose these VOBs need additional or different processing, but I can't find the answer. Is it possible to copy a DVD to DVD-RW and play it in a standard home player whilst keeping all the PC like functionality? Thanks!

[WorldBook]

Originally posted by BobC
1) Regardless if I play the movie from the hard drive or from a burned DVD, the WinDVD v2.8 player does not recognize the files as a DVD and therefore requires me to create a playlist of the 6 VOB files. (This alone prevents me from using the burned DVD in a standard household player).


Newer versions of WINDVD and POWERDVD do not have this problem.

[BobC]

I obtained two more DVD’s and ran DVD Decrypter against these. I find the smaller of the two, which is just under 4.7GB (one layer), works just fine from the hard drive. When I burn it to a DVD-RW using Roxio data file copy, WinDVD v2.8 works fine also. When I try and play the DVD-RW on my TV’s home player, Pioneer model DV-434, it plays the security warning and the movie studio logo just fine. It then goes to a black screen and never displays the main menu. I noticed that when I use WinDVD, is shows the “disk type” as DVD in the status bar.

As far as the other DVD goes, it fails just like the 9GB, (two layer), “Training Day” DVD. This DVD is titled “The Deer Hunter” and it is also a two layer, 9GB DVD. I notice that WinDVD does not show the “disk type” as DVD, but rather as MPEG.

I suspect this problem has something to do with 9GB two layer DVD’s, but I do not understand why. Certainly my DVD-RW media can’t hold the 9GB, but my hard drive does. Note that I place the VOB’s into a “VIDEO_TS” directory off of the hard drive root.

[?¿öM¿?]

I believe that your problem is that you need to rip in iso mode to get an image of the DVD, then burn this image to the DVD. You will need to do some work to get the DVD9 onto 2 DVD5's. If you want to play it from the HDD, you mount it in a virtual DVD drive like VirtualCD or DVDSpace, there is a good freeware one that is called daemon tools or something.
VOB files are mpeg2 files and will be recognized as such. When descrambled in ifo mode, the ifo file you get is basically a simple index file for linking the video and audio streams from the different vob files and will not be readable in your players. When descrambling in file mode, you will not even have an ifo file for your players to read.
The reason why you only have six chapters is because the ifo file from ifo mode only indexes to the 6 vob files as ifo and file mode of ripping are designed to prepare the vob files for format conversion(I think this is correct:D ). You can't even open the ifo file with your players (which is why you have to create a playlist) so even if it did still have the 28 chapters, you would not see them as the ifo file points to chapter markings, they are not contained in the vobs.
The vts_0x_0 has lost functionality because the players no longer identify it as a menu as there is no ifo file to tell it that it is a menu. It will just be handled as a regular video file.
I have absolutely no idea why the DVD5 plays fine in WinDVD, I don't think it should.
Your audio stream problem is probably the result of ripping in file mode.

Check out the DVD authoring board as you will find most of the imformation you seek is contained there.:)

((i hope all the above information is correct))

[destemido]

you should try this guide:
http://www.doom9.org/mpg/ifoedit-basic.htm
it is very easy.
when you ripp you really need to do get vts sectors in ifoedit, or else the dvd will not work on your standalone. that is because software dvd palyers are much more forgiving than the standalones.
ifoedit also has a dvdplayer so that you can check whether your project is working.
if you have any other doubts... go to the ifo forum.