P4 2.4 or Athlon 2400+ ?

[JonRead]

For my video editing only machine, I want a decent CPU but on a budget. So the maximum I can afford is either a 2.4 P4 or 2400+ Athlon. I usually stick with AMD these days, since 1998 anyway, but that is probably more to do with price, but it seems these 2 are evenly priced. I know the 2400+ isn't really 2.4ghz, but I know it is around the same speed as a 2.4 pentium. So, can anyone tell me which would encode video faster ?

Also has anyone managed to get DVD2DVD-R working ? I downloaded the software but it was all in German and gave me some kind of error, is it any good ?

Cheers,

Jon

[auenf]

the P4 2.4 and the XP2400+ are about the same encoding speed, so basically its your preference ;)

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[ramutan]

If I was you, I go with XP2400.
And about DVD2DVD-R I think you can get the same results with DVD2SVCD, the only thing you need to do is adjust some settings.
The version I got is in english but downloaded it from a german site.:D To me I looks just like DVD2SVCD, I didn't used to actually tell you if is the same thing.

Hope this helps, Best wishes :cool:

[jankster]

I have a 1.4Ghz P4 computer (rambus memory) and a XP1700 with DDR memory. The XP1700 by the way is a 1.4G clock. The AMD computer is exactly 2X fast at encoding. How can you then say the P4 = XP ?????????

[destemido]

shit everywhere i go there is a AMD fanboy. you should know that the old willy suched big time. but now the northwood's are very good. so good that there are many people who supported amd in any way are now turning to the p4's because they are very fast and if you o/c they can be even faster. you're right about one thing clock per clock amd cpu's are faster but that has to do with each cpu architecture, and not better cpu desing on the amd cpu's like some people say.
the xp's have an higher IPC (instructions per clock) than the p4's.
but intel did that so that the cpu could scale better. that is why you can have a 3.6 ghz p4 using a phase change colling solution.

now... to anwser the posters question...
if you're not o/cing go for the amd system if it really is that much cheaper than the p4 option. if you can get your hands on a 2800+ with 333 mhz fsb and a dual ddr channel mobo, (asus has 1 of the best)and two sticks of 512MB ddr than you'll have a killer system, which many people say it is way cheaper than a p4 @ 2.8
for more info on that you can go to the madonion forum
http://gamershq.madonion.com
sorry for the big post.
man i should really need to learn how to contain myself.

[auenf]

Originally posted by jankster
I have a 1.4Ghz P4 computer (rambus memory) and a XP1700 with DDR memory. The XP1700 by the way is a 1.4G clock. The AMD computer is exactly 2X fast at encoding. How can you then say the P4 = XP ?????????

CCE 2.66 added a large(ish) performance boost for SSE2 (p4's). besides the 1.4 P4 is one of the really slow ones, the 2.4 has twice the L2 cache, and is probably running on a faster bus.

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[destemido]

and wait until HT (hyperthreading) is added into the equation...
then we shall see who will dance!!

[DVD__GR]

Originally posted by destemido
shit everywhere i go there is a AMD fanboy. you should know that the old willy suched big time. but now the northwood's are very good. so good that there are many people who supported amd in any way are now turning to the p4's because they are very fast and if you o/c they can be even faster.

shit everywhere i go there is an INTEL fanboy..
INTEL is not as good as you think and I will prove you in shortly why.

1:)Until AMD got up to *ntels performance *ntels prices where so
high as you cant imagine,if you are a pc fan you know what i mean..

2:)If AMD dies AS U SURELY WISH then there will be NO RIVAL for *ntels
marketing strategy,and they will sell any price they want and we will not have faster and faster cpu's so often.(Do you know that the P2 chip was ready from 1992!!!!!! and it was not sold because *ntel was getting high profits of 486 and pentiums!!!!).(do you know why some years before we didnt have new chip announcements every day??Because of the intensity of the battle between amd and *ntel...)

3:)AMD pricing strategy is very friendly with the end user something
that *ntel NEVER CARED which is proved of history..(dont have time analysing).I am a student.I WANT A FAST AND CHEAP CPU...
IS IT *ntel's??I AM POSITIVE NO!!!
You dont believe me??
Go to most known hardware sites and COMPARE PRICE TO PERFORMANCE...
U know the result..

4:)Hammer and Opteron wait....


FINALLY:Amd is not going so good.its not the performance but its the price.AMD has minimum earns from a chip sold against *ntel.This is bad.I WONDER HOW IT WOULD BE IF AMD DIES..I AM AFRAID THAT DAY..
GOOD FOR US IS TO HAVE 2 COMPETING COMPANIES TO GET FAST CPU's IN LOW PRICE..

Remember 3DFX and NVIDIA..
I was an NVIDIA fan...I was really not happy of 3dfx closing.
Nvidia did not try to fast improve its chipsets.
And ATI came :-))Maybe geforce FX is the king but look what happened??
NVIDIA tried to win RADEON 9700 PRO and got a faster chip.
When it is out all the others will drop price.

SO WE ARE WITH OUR SIDE,BYERS SIDE.NOT WITH AMD'S OR INTELS SIDE.
if u search why amd is absolute faster from intel cpu's
search and find that athlon has A VECTOR PROCCESING UNIT...which got it from the ALPHA PROCCESORS!!!!.
For that they have really strong FPU in absolute speed.

[destemido]

I'M NOT ANY1 FANBOY!!
the guy that posted before me was making a stupid comparison, that's all. i know more about computers than you can imagine.
you're right when you say intel is now that good.
look at their IA-64 arquitecture... they used some1 else design now they have to pay 300 million dollars to be allowed to sell a single itanium CPU.
i never said anything about a p4 being faster clock per clock, anyway.
the only thing i usually do is to laugh whenever i see a fanboy fight, i never take party.
the eternal war - AMD vs INTEL or NVIDIA vs ATI.
but it is interesting that in the case of the GFx market the leader changes side alternately. the same doesn't happen in the cpu market.
you're right when you say AMD cannot go down. and yes p4's prices dropped a lot because of the AXP's price/performance ratio.
only time will tell if AMD will recover some market share....

[Yannis]

:D I love this kind of threads - hehe :D

Anyway, just for the ones who do not know it ( I doubt there are many) check: http://www.tomshardware.com : one of the best sites for hardware tests. Who is faster? Intel or AMD ??? Depends on the date you check !! :D

Anyway, the most important thing said here (and everyone agrees) is that Intel has stopped (sort of) being a monopoly due to AMD and softened their customer exploitation strategy...

[destemido]

well TOM is known to be the most "biased" motherf*** on the planet!!
and it not just me.. i think he has something against AMD.
also he usually comes up with some non existant hardware.

[Yannis]

@destemido

thanks for the reply

well... i do not know what he has been doing with his mother, but biased "against" AMD ??? In the past, he has praised either company about their products and he has made many people aware about AMD's good achievements... Anyway, I am certain you can find rumours about anybody on the net!! The gist, though, is that I have observed many of his findings verified by others and AMD & Intel are alternatively put each other down...

[Trahald]

its always gonna come down to personal opinion - no matter who wins benchmarks. i happen to like amd.. and i do feel there existance keeps intel developing faster and their prices somewhat reasonable

my main reason for liking amd ... well.. they are inexpensive.. thats 90% of the reason.. 5% is i like amd. last 5% is the tests that seem to show per mhz amds run faster than an intel at the same clock

-wewk

[jdobbs]

I have nothing against Intel they make a good product -- I personally buy AMD because they have always been (and still are) cheaper for the same performance. I guess it just depends how much you like your money.

[destemido]

well i like intel because i'm an enthusiast and like to overclock. thats why i go intel way.
and i used to like AMD too, but i realy don't know what made me change my mind. maybe it was those hug pricedrops on intel...