menu loop with start sequence (problem)

[sw3d]

I tried in Maestro and in Scenarist to create an animated menu that has a startup sequence and a loop...

Maestro uses the convenient feature where you can control the loop back point with a slider. In Scenarist I tried to do the same thing with one clip and chapter stops or with two separate clips.
Basically I got the same results... On my Settop player everything works fine, but when I play it with PowerDVD the DVD just stops after the first loop (in any case). I tried (after I read some posts) Cinematograph and it works too. Apparently just PowerDVD doesn't do it right.
On the other hand, almost every Hollywood DVD has this feature and it works as well on my Settop player and with PowerDVD. Somewhere has to be a bug, or I just don't get it right.
In the meantime I do two separate clips in Maestro. One has the Startup sequence plus some loop, the other one has just the loop. This way, I don't get a break between the Startup and the loop and I have no problem linking back to just the loop. But I think it takes to much space on the disk...
After analyzing a few Hollywood DVDs, I think I can say that nobody uses 'my' method (cheat). If someone has the same problem, or even has a solution for this phenomenon any advise would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks...

PS: Any ideas of having multiple soundtracks for a menu (and not saving the menu video clip several times) or how they did the 'animated menu' in Spiderman. (changing the color of the subpicture)?[PHP]

[oddyseus]

u can safely assume that every holywood movie uses Scenarist to author. There u can jump wherever u want eventhough u will need much more time to acheive it.

Definetely we, u and I and I think lots of people in this forum don't get it right, cause I use the same cheat to do the same trick. We just cant think of the correct steps to do it right.

U can fake a menu as a movie with multiple audio tracks and use buttons over video for the user selections. As 4 the moving subs there is a great thread in Subtitles, a recent one that deals with the subs of SpiderMan.

[easy2Bcheesy]

Originally posted by oddyseus
u can safely assume that every holywood movie uses Scenarist to author. There u can jump wherever u want eventhough u will need much more time to acheive it.

Quite a few are still done in Maestro, especially if the DVD was authored in the UK. The Region 2 version of Ronin is one such movie.

[Slug123]

I also have this problem and could not understand why my loop point was not working.. I had read every relevant post in every forum I could find, I even read the maestro manual from beginning to end to try and find out why I could not get looping working. In the end when I tried simulating from hard disk with another player that the loop did actually work and it was just powerDVD at fault...

Before I knew this however I also would extract the segment from the intro movie which contained the intro as well as the segement with the loop, I would then firstplay the intro with an endpoint to run the loop, this sort of worked for a few films but was extremly painful to keep extracting the correct segments to knit them back together in the right order.

I have had no problems with any set top box so did not expend any more energy in trying to find out why it did not work under powerDVD.

Slug

[denfert]

Maestro menu looping and powerDVD doesn't work

but with scenarist it's ok:
you must make the link to the beginning of the cell on the post command and not the cell command

sorry for my poor english.

[sw3d]

Now it works!
As I was proven again, you have to RTFM (Read the f------ manual).
As it says in the Scenarist documentation...
"Click and drag from the Post flag on the video menu PGC back to the video menu PGC icon."
I just thought this is valid for complete loops only, where you want to repeat the whole sequence but I just wanted to repeat the last cell.
That's why I linked from the cell and not from the Post flag.
My mistake...

Thx again!