Nandub

[Tha_Ownerizer]

well, I went from using FlaskMPEG to frameserving (I think that's the term when you make a pusedo avi) with DVD2AVI and using Nandub to encode. Now, the beef I have with Nandub is this:

When I use two different subtitler filters (Vobsub and Avery's Subtitler) only the Vobsub subtitles show up, even though Avery's Subtitler is higher on the filter order. Now, I check and the version of Nandub I have is built off Virtualdub 1.4d. Is there a new version of Nandub I can download that will add them both, or will I just have to keep doing what I've been doing and encode them, then RECODE them with the other subtitler on getting both subtitle streams in a final product. Anyway, I've also noticed that the version of Virtualdub I have will process both streams (Version 1.4.10) but dosen't offer the variable bitrate like Nandub, which is what I'd rather have.

Any suggestions.

[midiguy]

wow. you mean you were using flaskmpeg this WHOLE time? there are a bunch of newer, better codecs now. try DivX 5 or XviD. and, virtualdub is just an encoder. it foes not decide whether to be variable bitrate or not. that is up to the codec. nandub is simply a program (an old, no longer developed program) that can manipulate DivX 3.11a, which is just an illegal hack of a very old codec (m$ mpeg4 v3). so yeah, try DivX 5 or XviD with the latest version of virtualdub. read the guides @ doom9 for more info.

[Tha_Ownerizer]

I tried using DivX 5 and didn't like it because it was too confusing to configure, even after looking at the guides. SOOO, I started using Nandub because it switched between Divx 3.11 high and low motion codecs, and seemed to give me the best quailty out of all the methods I had tried.

BTW, running Winblows 2000 if that helps any.

[Fairlight Excalibur]

Originally posted by Tha_Ownerizer
I tried using DivX 5 and didn't like it because it was too confusing to configure, even after looking at the guides. SOOO, I started using Nandub because it switched between Divx 3.11 high and low motion codecs, and seemed to give me the best quailty out of all the methods I had tried.

BTW, running Winblows 2000 if that helps any.

Wow!
I think this not something you see everyday! Most people find Nandub is confusing.

If you like Nandub and think its easy to use then maybe you should check the XviD forum section and give XviD a try ;)

LOL
Not everyday you see someone post saying DivX5.02 Pro is harder to use than Nandub :D

[Snakeisthestuff]

Hi, i think divx 502 pro is really easy to configure.

a simple way is to set under divx codec properties in the 'divx codec' tab the variable bitrate Mode to '2-pass, first pass' then set the encoding bitrate i think for good 2 cd quali for example to 2000 (higher values - better quali) then switch to the 'Advanced Parameters' tab.
set maximum quantizer to 4 (lower value - better quali) and minimum quantizer to 2. now press ok -> now save your avi and you have done your first pass like nandub - the standard statsfile is 'C:\divx.log'.
after finishing encoding, switch back to the divx properties - your settings from before should been saved - if not set everything again, the only difference is, to set the variable bitrate mode to '2-pass, second pass'. now press ok and save your avi again and your done! watch the movie, should be good quali :) . one thing to the mpeg4 tools in the 'divx codec' tab, i have always enabled all three but have not done much tests with this - maybe gmc is not needed imho.

if your banner is right your encoding animes i think, then you should xvid give a try, i have done a lot of good experiences with that codec!
here is a really good two-pass guide for xvid from iago as pdf file.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36915

[Manao]

@The_Ownerizer :

Is avery's filter in your nandub plugin directory ? Did you installed Nandub in the same directory than Vdub ( as it should be done ? )

Now, several remarks on what you said :

* Nandub can switch between High and Low motion codec, but if you read carefully the Doom9's guide, you will see that you must prevent it from doing the switch, and stay to low motion.

* You can't say Nandub + DivX3.11 is easier than DivX5 or Xvid + Vdub. Perhaps you aren't used to them, but they are a lot simplier. And if you don't like DivX5, please give a try to Xvid. With now supporting of bframes ( dev builds, but stable now ), it gives the best quality if you have a restricted size ( 2hour/cd for example ). But if you aim for 1CD/hour or less, then, OK, divX3 will give you a better quality.

* You want to put the subtitles on the video. Well, it's easier to use, you don't have to use bsplayer or a player + vobsub to draw them, but it makes the movie less compressible, hence raises its size ( or lowers its quality ). If you want something which will work with all the player, try the ogm format. You will get only one file, with subs, audio tracks and video, easy to use, with a better quality, you will be able to switch on/off the subs at will. Of course, you must do an ocr to get text subtitles, but it worthes the slight lost of time.