Making a DVD-9 movie fit on a DVD-R

[valnar]

There are so many programs and options. What is the easiest way to move some of my movies to a DVD-R 5? The guides here are very daunting.

Is CCE or TMPGEnc easier? How about Rempeg? Any tried and true way to shrink the bitrate to fit on a DVD-R?

I guess I'm just surprised how many posts there are when the guides are *very* detailed. Do they not work?

Sorry for newbie questions. Thanks.

Robert

[Nojustice2000]

If you read most postings you will probably notice that many people now split to 2 dvdr's due to the fact it is quicker and the quality is the same....Also beacuse media is so cheap....

I personally only compress when the limit is a few 100MB over the limit....When I do compress i use rempeg as its the easiest...but extremely slow

[valnar]

Cool. Which "method" of splitting to 2 DVD-R's is the most foolproof?


Thanks for the response.
Robert

[thill]

this is a copy and paste from http://www.doom9.org
all creadit go to them



Split a DVD to 2 DVD-Rs

If a DVD-9 is smaller than 2 DVD-5s, why not simply split up a movie and put it onto 2 DVD-Rs? Well, for quite a while that couldn't be done but thanks to IfoEdit and WZ_man from my forum it's now possible. IfoEdit 0.89 has added an automatic split feature so if you read this guide before chances are you will see something completely different ;) This guide is based on a document by Derrow.

You'll need the following software in this guide:

IfoEdit
ImgTool
DVD Decrypter

Table of content:

1: Rip the DVD
2: Split the DVD
3: Adjust the start point of the 2nd chapter
4: Make the disc region free
5: Remove User option prohibitions
6: Final sector adjustments
7: Burn the DVD



I'm going to illustrate this procedure using the disc American Pie, R1.

Step 1: Rip the DVD

First you have to copy the whole content of your movie to your harddisk. The best tool for the job is DVD Decrypter.

Step 2: Split the DVD

Here's the full directory listing we get after ripping:

09.03.2002 13:19 26'624 VIDEO_TS.BUP
09.03.2002 13:19 26'624 VIDEO_TS.IFO
09.03.2002 13:19 28'420'096 VIDEO_TS.VOB
09.03.2002 13:19 18'432 VTS_01_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:19 18'432 VTS_01_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:19 20'480 VTS_01_0.VOB
09.03.2002 13:19 10'240 VTS_01_1.VOB
09.03.2002 13:19 98'304 VTS_02_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:19 98'304 VTS_02_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:19 81'121'280 VTS_02_0.VOB
09.03.2002 13:22 1'073'709'056 VTS_02_1.VOB
09.03.2002 13:25 1'073'709'056 VTS_02_2.VOB
09.03.2002 13:27 1'073'709'056 VTS_02_3.VOB
09.03.2002 13:28 1'073'709'056 VTS_02_4.VOB
09.03.2002 13:29 666'392'576 VTS_02_5.VOB
09.03.2002 13:29 14'336 VTS_03_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:29 14'336 VTS_03_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:30 448'149'504 VTS_03_1.VOB
09.03.2002 13:30 18'432 VTS_04_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:30 18'432 VTS_04_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:32 1'073'709'056 VTS_04_1.VOB
09.03.2002 13:33 128'235'520 VTS_04_2.VOB
09.03.2002 13:33 16'384 VTS_05_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:33 16'384 VTS_05_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:34 421'064'704 VTS_05_1.VOB
09.03.2002 13:34 22'528 VTS_06_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:34 22'528 VTS_06_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:34 85'653'504 VTS_06_1.VOB
09.03.2002 13:34 14'336 VTS_07_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:34 14'336 VTS_07_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:34 253'952 VTS_07_1.VOB

As you can see, the main movie is contained in VTS_02_X.VOB. Open VTS_02_0.IFO in IfoEdit.

Then select VOB Extras -> Split to 2 DVD-Rs.



All the options will already be properly set.

The only thing you have to enter is a destination path for the first DVD in "Destination directory" and the 2nd DVD in "2.nd Dest directory".



The next step is selecting a suitable splitting point. By default IfoEdit selects the layer switch point. This may work in most cases, however you have to be aware that certain additional files will have to be copies to both discs afterwards. First of all each movie must have a VTS1 titleset. This means that VTS_01_0.VOB, VTS_01_0.IFO and VTS_01_0.BUP must be on both discs. This is no problem if the movie is contained in this titleset (most DVDs) but in our example this is not the case. The 2nd constraint is that each menu must be on both discs. So if there's a VTS_XY_0.VOB it has to be on both discs, including the associated .IFO and .BUP files. Last but not least VIDEO_TS.VOB, VIDEO_TS.IFO and VIDEO_TS.BUP must also be present on both discs. In my case these files (VIDEO_TS.*, VTS_01_*) are not that large but just in case I selected the chapter split point at Chapter 15 rather than the default of Cell 48. Unfortunately as of now there's no exact splitsize calculation so you won't know how much space the files will take up after splitting but that should be added in a future version.

Anyway, better play it save here.



Once done you will have the following files in the DVD1 directory:

09.03.2002 13:55 83'968 VTS_02_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:55 83'968 VTS_02_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:53 1'073'350'656 VTS_02_1.VOB
09.03.2002 13:53 1'073'647'616 VTS_02_2.VOB
09.03.2002 13:54 1'073'520'640 VTS_02_3.VOB
09.03.2002 13:55 480'571'392 VTS_02_4.VOB

and the following in the DVD2 directory:

09.03.2002 13:55 61'440 VTS_02_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:55 61'440 VTS_02_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:52 1'073'702'912 VTS_02_1.VOB
09.03.2002 13:52 186'435'584 VTS_02_2.VOB

As written before you must now add the first titleset to both discs. In our case that's VTS_01_0.VOB, VTS_01_0.IFO and VTS_01_0.BUP. since VTS_01_1.VOB is small I put in on both discs too but normally you would put extras on one disc only. Then we need VTS_02_0.VOB on both discs. Last but not least the extras (VTS_03 - VTS_07). I put all these files on the 2nd disc.

In the end we have the following files on the first DVD:

09.03.2002 14:12 26'624 VIDEO_TS.BUP
09.03.2002 14:12 26'624 VIDEO_TS.IFO
09.03.2002 13:19 28'420'096 VIDEO_TS.VOB
09.03.2002 13:19 18'432 VTS_01_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:19 18'432 VTS_01_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:19 20'480 VTS_01_0.VOB
09.03.2002 13:19 10'240 VTS_01_1.VOB
09.03.2002 13:55 83'968 VTS_02_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:55 83'968 VTS_02_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:19 81'121'280 VTS_02_0.VOB
09.03.2002 13:53 1'073'350'656 VTS_02_1.VOB
09.03.2002 13:53 1'073'647'616 VTS_02_2.VOB
09.03.2002 13:54 1'073'520'640 VTS_02_3.VOB
09.03.2002 13:55 480'571'392 VTS_02_4.VOB

and the following ones on the 2nd DVD:

09.03.2002 14:12 26'624 VIDEO_TS.BUP
09.03.2002 14:12 26'624 VIDEO_TS.IFO
09.03.2002 13:19 28'420'096 VIDEO_TS.VOB
09.03.2002 13:19 18'432 VTS_01_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:19 18'432 VTS_01_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:19 20'480 VTS_01_0.VOB
09.03.2002 13:19 10'240 VTS_01_1.VOB
09.03.2002 13:55 61'440 VTS_02_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:55 61'440 VTS_02_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:19 81'121'280 VTS_02_0.VOB
09.03.2002 13:52 1'073'702'912 VTS_02_1.VOB
09.03.2002 13:52 186'435'584 VTS_02_2.VOB
09.03.2002 13:29 14'336 VTS_03_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:29 14'336 VTS_03_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:30 448'149'504 VTS_03_1.VOB
09.03.2002 13:30 18'432 VTS_04_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:30 18'432 VTS_04_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:32 1'073'709'056 VTS_04_1.VOB
09.03.2002 13:33 128'235'520 VTS_04_2.VOB
09.03.2002 13:33 16'384 VTS_05_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:33 16'384 VTS_05_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:34 421'064'704 VTS_05_1.VOB
09.03.2002 13:34 22'528 VTS_06_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:34 22'528 VTS_06_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:34 85'653'504 VTS_06_1.VOB
09.03.2002 13:34 14'336 VTS_07_0.BUP
09.03.2002 13:34 14'336 VTS_07_0.IFO
09.03.2002 13:34 253'952 VTS_07_1.VOB

Step 3: Adjust the start point of the 2nd chapter (optional)

Perhaps you're thinking "wouldn't it be nice if upon inserting the 2nd disc in the player the movie would go on automatically and I wouldn't have to go through all the menus again?". And it's not only nice but possible with a little extra work:

Load VIDEO_TS.IFO of the 2nd disc in IfoEdit and locate the title which contains the main movie.

In this case it's title one. Make a mental note of that number.



Next go to VMGM_MAT and locate the First Play PGC in the upper part of the IfoEdit window.



Then locate the Pre Commands in the lower part of the window.



Select the first Pre Command and right click and select Edit Command.



Select the (Jump_TT) Jump to Title command and select the title number of the main movie, then press OK.



The rest of the steps has been put on a separate page.
This document was last updated on 09/03/02