Pop Ups :(

[solidvob]

I didn't see any other forums talking about the dreadful pop ups all over the net today so I'm starting one here. I got up this morning and got onto the internet, but everything kept freezing and about every 15 seconds a pop up would appear. I went to look at the programs that were running on my sys and sure enough found two IEXPLORER's running one of which was over 48 mb!!!! Thats 48 mb of pop up code that some dumbshit has on their site.(I don't mean to offend anyone, some sites can use it tactfully) So if your computer keeps getting unwanted pop ups, or freezes while using the internet just close out the IEXPLORER process (this will end internet activity so make sure you aren't going to lose any work).

Anyways in this thread I thought, if it was ok, we could compile a list of sites that abuse the pop up code. If thats not ok we could just rant and rave about how we all hate it.

To start the list off:
1. afterdawn.com (everypage brings a pop up, I collected 20 in a matter of seconds)

~Solid

[Koepi]

Well, if you use IE it's your fault: mozilla has an option in the preferences with which you can disable popups. You can't imagine how nice the net is with that, almost like 5 years ago! :)

Koepi

[Apu]

I'm using the Meaya PopUp AdFilter atm, and it works fine for me (really let's no single popup trough, doesn't need much system resources etc.).

I'm not surprised that more and more comercial pages use popups, but I'm very disapointet that more and more 'scene' sites use them for dialers and sex sites (If I would have children, I really wouldn't like to surf such sites while they're in the same room or so...).

@Koepi

how is comatibility of mozilla with web sites or things like Java, Perl etc.?

[Zarxrax]

Is there any way to block those new type of ads where they like, scroll in over the page you are trying to view, and wont go away for like 30 seconds? Those are far more annoying than popups, and it seems lots of sites are moving towards those now that people block popups.

[Apu]

I think those are made via java and not just html popups, so the only way would be to deactivate Java/Javascript.

[solidvob]

Absolutely Sweet, thank you very much for pointing out my flaw in using IE. Lets just say I'll never use it again. MOZILLA is sweet! Are there any downsides to it though? I haven't seen any yet.

~Solid

http://www.solidvob.com

[Neo Neko]

Originally posted by Apu
@Koepi

how is comatibility of mozilla with web sites or things like Java, Perl etc.?

Mozilla is better with most web and open standards than Internet Explorer. It's main weakness lies in it's inability to make use of rarely used proprietary Microsoft ActiveX extensions. Flash, Java, etc. They all work. PERL would be run server side and as such Mozilla will rarely see it.

[Neo Neko]

Originally posted by solidvob
Absolutely Sweet, thank you very much for pointing out my flaw in using IE. Lets just say I'll never use it again. MOZILLA is sweet! Are there any downsides to it though? I haven't seen any yet.

~Solid

http://www.solidvob.com

There are bugs. No major downsides to speak of. Check their Bugzilla for the comprehensive list. Don't let the number put you off. Just remember that Microsoft hides their bugs as features as often as possible and their list would likely easily dwarf that of Mozilla. :)

[xox]

Mozilla has better compatibility than IE - especially with Javascripts - but IE still handles frames better, and as long as your IE is up to date, there should be minimal problems. Use SUN's JRE to handle Java apps instead of MS' own virtual machine.

[Uli]

Just use Proxomitron:
http://www.proxomitron.org
and your'e off :D
...even with IE :devil:

greetz, Uli

[diji1]

Opera is another worthy browser that prevents pop-ups completely, although it displays ads unless it's registered.

The Proxomitron inspects html and headers before it passes it to your browser - making changes to the html/header code as per a filter setup. Highly recommended for avoiding advertisements completely, pop-up or otherwise as well as a large number of other web-nastiness. Try out the filters / blocklists at theXhenn-Jhell (http://www.laudanski.com/) web page if you're feeling adventurous - they are fairly comphrehensive. If you're familiar with html/css one can re-write webpages "on-the-fly" with filters of you're own making.

[int 21h]

Remember that some pages (if you frequent them) have popup blocking detection and will refuse access. The best example, and only applicable example in my case, is http://www.cdcovers.cc

[xox]

Originally posted by int 21h
Remember that some pages (if you frequent them) have popup blocking detection and will refuse access. The best example, and only applicable example in my case, is http://www.cdcovers.cc

I use PopUpCop and have no problem entering and downloading covers from www.cdcovers.cc - maybe you should give it a try.

[int 21h]

I didn't extensively test, but did notice the problem with both Opera and Mozilla. (It maybe fixed in one of those products by now though).

[dvd2svcd]

Originally posted by Uli
Just use Proxomitron:
http://www.proxomitron.org
and your'e off :D
...even with IE :devil:

greetz, Uli By far the best I've ever tried, thanks :D

[gabest]

Sorry for the bad joke, but while IE is open for any 3rd party popup killer, other browsers seem to be monopolizing this market :P

[theReal]

When I'm going to sites that are known to have a lot of popups (of course I only visit such sites for academical purposes, uhum...) then I just set cookie protection and security level to highest - that disables about everything, including popups. If I can't view a site then because it needs Java(script) to be turned on then this site can just eat my shorts ;)

[dRD]

Originally posted by solidvob

Anyways in this thread I thought, if it was ok, we could compile a list of sites that abuse the pop up code. If thats not ok we could just rant and rave about how we all hate it.

To start the list off:
1. afterdawn.com (everypage brings a pop up, I collected 20 in a matter of seconds)

~Solid

Interesting, as a site's webmaster I'm interested to hear this kind of behaviour. Your browser doesn't allow cookies, I assume? Since we currently have this setup:

-For US users, banners come from DoubleClick, we've asked them to block all popups and popunders and haven't received complaints from our users about this

-For non-US visitors, we serve banners from Burst and FastClick, both with no pops

-For everybody we serve popUNDERS from FastClick with capping, so that during one session you see only ONE popUNDER (except if you change domain, due stupid cookie setup by FastClick, when you see one popUNDER per domain per session -- normally you see then one popunder from the main page and one from the forums and if you come back to the mainsite, you wont see anything)

I can't understand where/how you can see any popUPs on our site at all, unless some campaigns through DC spawn a popup despite the fact that this has been blocked by our traffic administrator at DC.

...and why popunders? Well, if we would drop popunders, we would drop the whole site, banners are a joke nowadays and we're actually considering to drop the banners for good until the CPM rates go up for those. Not everybody can run their sites on free servers -- we have three dedicated servers, one terabyte a month traffic and we can't rely on hope of communism making a big time comeback and providing free server space for everybody.

[Neo Neko]

Originally posted by xox
Mozilla has better compatibility than IE - especially with Javascripts - but IE still handles frames better, and as long as your IE is up to date, there should be minimal problems. Use SUN's JRE to handle Java apps instead of MS' own virtual machine.
Never had a problem with frames yet. You got a link to a page that does? In the end frames are bad anyway. But I have yet to see Mozilla slip up on em.

[Neo Neko]

Originally posted by int 21h
I didn't extensively test, but did notice the problem with both Opera and Mozilla. (It maybe fixed in one of those products by now though).

Everything fine from Mozilla 1.2b land.

[xox]

Originally posted by Neo Neko
Never had a problem with frames yet. You got a link to a page that does? In the end frames are bad anyway. But I have yet to see Mozilla slip up on em.

It's not exactly problem displaying frames, but more of copying the contents of them. I can't really remember which page it was, though, but it just happened few weeks ago.

[Neo Neko]

Ie is a bit of a pain for that as well.

[Koepi]

More recent nightly builds of mozilla work so good, you can copy wahtever you want from a webpage (given that you setup the preferences correctly for scripting).

Regards
Koepi