Remuxing .M2V I have one simple QUESTION

[crow]

I have been using ReMpeg2 & have had no problems, But I'm
looking for a little bit better QUALITY .

Today I started using TMPGEnc-2.58.44.152-Plus, the
QUALITY of the encoding I've produced
is unbelievable.

To this point I've just done small files for testing but now I'm
doing full movie.

Will IfoEdit REMUX the .M2V
file back into the .VOB correctly?????????

And the input source for encoding is the original .VOB not an .AVI file, i never really understood that.

[Jinxed]

We have been discussing this in another post on this forum. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36352

Basically we have come to the conclusion that either TMPGEnc does not import the Template properly or IFOEdit does not create the template properly, because in nearly all cases the remux process does not work successfully, ending up in a movie which starts to stutter the video, ending up with loads of "stills".

I am told that Derrow is working on a feature in IFOEdit 0.95 that will mean that you will not need to maintain the GOP structure between your original VOBs and the re-encoded M2V when remuxing.

If this is true it will be fantastic, as this problem also happens plenty of times with REMPEG too, as the process of reading the GOP in REMPEG only looks at the first few frames, often a studio logo or suchlike, and these can quite often have a different GOP structure to the rest of the movie.

My advice is to read the thread above and make any comments on that.

Cheers

[crow]

Is it really necessary to create a template, because I didn't.
Remuxing was a snap no problems at all.

I still don't understand why people say you need
to create a .D2V project, i think this is an unnecessary step..

I've never got a encoding that looked this good & fit 4,489MB

I gess i'll try an other movie today.

Thanks for the Ifo Jinxed...

[Jinxed]

Am I understanding you correct. You said that you are using TMPEnc 2.58 to convert the VOB direct? How is this possible? TMPGEnc cannot read VOBs.

All the guides say that DVD2AVI is needed to create a d2v file so that DVD2AVI can frame serve to TMPGEnc. That is how I always do it. This process only takes a couple of minutes tops anyway.

When I tried to open a VOB up as the video source it comes up with a messgae "File type not supported".So I assume that in the version I have it still don't work!

By the way, if you got your M2V file to remux properly then maybe Derrow's latest way of creating the TMPGEnc template in 0.94 works now. I have not tried 0.94 yet. Will do so today.

GOP structure is a tricky business. If it works it will be nice. I will be able to get rid of about 15 movies that are sitting on my hard drive waiting for the time when I can burn them to DVD-R.

[crow]

Install this plugin click here HERE (http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downloads/tmpgenc.html) down load the m2v_vfp-0.4.6.zip

Ripp movie as ONE BIG FILE . D2V project is unnecessary..........!

And yes TMPGEnc-2.58.44.152-Plus does read .VOB's..............!

I remuxed my movie and it does not jurk or skip or have any audio problms..............!

I'm using IfoEdit .9.3.2. and didn't make a TEMPLATE...............

LOOKS AS GOOD AS THE ORIGINAL....................................!

[ticoff]

Sorry, but the link you submited does not work.

Is there any posibility you give us a step by step guide to create the m2v file with TMPGenc ?

I think it will be appreciated.

Ticoff

[Chumboy]

crow,

if you could write a step-by-step...that would be awesome!

all i've ever used rempeg2 and am tired of the quality.
cce is too complex.

TMPGEnc sounds great...please provide a "how-to"

thanks,
chum

[crow]

OK I'll make step-by-step when i verfiy that it works on more
than one movie.

I'll have that guide ready tomrrow going to wright a web page, HTML %?% I'll post it on my web site.

I'll post link later

NOTE: hard decision
CSS $1954.00
TMPGEnc $68.00

[Chumboy]

crow,

thanks...you rock!

btw...loved you 2 movies.

chum

[Antonio S.]

crow:

Are you doing PAL or NSTC movies???

If doing NSTC movies, what FPS are you using? 23.976 or 29.97 FPS.

Antonio S.

[011]

Just found it with google :

h**p://w*w.vcdhelp.com/download/m2v_vfp-0.4.6.zip

Enjoy :)

[011]

The latest version can be found here :

h**p://w*w.marumo.ne.jp/mpeg2/m2v_vfp-0.6.10.lzh

It can be unpacked with winRAR

[dgm]

Crow or anybody.....
How much time do I need to encode with TMPEGEnc?
with ReMepeg2 takes 7 hours in P4

Thanks

[crow]

Depends the length of movie. A 2 hr movie 5.5 hrs, but the QUALITY blows ReMpeg out of the water.

[crow]

Well I tryed 2 more movies, since the frist one.

The second 2 movies will not Remux with IfoEdit, for the life of me i don't know why.

The only difference that I can think of is the first one was 4.3 &
the second ones were 16.9

I gess that the Ifo's are lying to me (NTSC 525/60 as input source in TMPEGEnc) thus throwing the I frames off.

As far as loading a TEMPLATE, TMPEGEnc will not load IfoEdit's.

No sense in writing A guide that dosen't work...................!

[Jinxed]

Are that is a shame. Just as I was beginning to think that someone on this forum had cracked it.

It is quite clear from reading other threads in this forum that with some movies you don't have a problem with remuxing, but with more than half of them you do.

I don't think the problem is the aspect ratio, but the GOP structure.

It all goes back to the necessity for IFOEdit to have a .M2V file that has the same GOP structure as the original VOBs. The I frames have to be in exactly the right places. If the TMPGEnc template is not used, or is not correct (for whatever reason) then the resulting .M2V will not remux.

REMPEG has similar problems because it is supposed to maintain the GOP structure, but sometimes reads it incorrectly from the VOBs. The explanation to this is found elesewhere on this forum, but generally stems from the inclusion of extra frames in the VOBs that were not encoded by the same guy in the studio when the main movie was encoded but added in afterwards, e.g. the Warner logo (which is probably just bunged in afterwards and has a different GOP structure). REMPEG assumes that the whole film has the same GOP structure, Big Mistake!

Derrow attempts with IFOEdit 0.94 to suggest a way of overcoming the errors in producing the TMPGEnc template, by cancelling the process after a few seconds, selecting the GOP that you think corresponds to the film and then clicking OK to continue. I have yet to try this out, but if anyone has done so I would be interested to hear how it went. Best to report after trying a few films, so that anomolies can be identified.

May I however congratulate Derrow for the great work he has done so far with this program. It already does so much for the cause of DVD backing up and is an invaluable tool (no 1 on my list, even with the few small bugs). I am sure that given time these minor issues will be resolved.

Hail Derrow!
:D