how to change default subtitles???? [Archive]

klona

16th October 2002, 18:57

I had a similar case and just put a pre-command at the end of the existing pre-commands on the main movie :

SetSTN Subpictures steam to : 1 as I want the sub 2 by default.

To remove a default sub, I think you must look for a similar command in the pre-command of the PGC/VTS of the main movie, the video_ts.ifo and all title that can be played before the main movie (Ifoedit will tell you after DVD play)

If you cannot find one, you can do a very small project in Maestro with a pre-command : set sub 1 OFF, generate and see what is the command to put into the IFO (as the OFF is not implemented in available commands in Ifoedit)
You then just need a copy-past to a pre-command in the ifo of the main movie, as last command just before the movie. It must work I think.

Rombaldi

17th October 2002, 22:45

Unfortunately I don't HAVE Mastero or any of the other packages.. and I REALLY don't want to 're-author' these since they fit just fine on a 4.7gb disc...

Derrow - o! master of the IFO's.. can you help us?? or at least add OFF to IfoEdit??? Soon???

mpucoder

17th October 2002, 22:52

Until then here's what you can do. Enter a SETSTN subpicture stream, and use stream #31. Then, double click on the command and change the byte that reads "9F" to "BE". This is stream 62, or "off".

klona

18th October 2002, 01:00

Here is your answer, thx to mpucoder, who probably did the small project with a sub OFF command. Thx to you, man.

Rombaldi

18th October 2002, 06:55

BINGO! that was the clue I needed.. it had a
SETSTN subpicture stream of '64' in there already.. I just
changed it to '62' and Eureka! no more subtitles by default

thanks!!

Derrow

18th October 2002, 10:55

Oh great.
Big thanx MpuCoder. Now I can implement something in IfoEdit.

Mancubas

19th October 2002, 14:14

Hi

I have been looking for a way to disable sub titles on start up also, but cannot find the "SETSTN subpicture stream" in my IFO's, can someone please write a simple guide on how to disable sub titles on startup, before DERROW implements it into his new ver of IFOEdit.

Thx, in advance.

Drylook

19th October 2002, 14:29

Originally posted by mpucoder
Enter a SETSTN subpicture stream, and use stream #31. Then, double click on the command and change the byte that reads "9F" to "BE". This is stream 62, or "off".

Great... Now we know how to set default subtitles to OFF.

But, I'm still blocked in my problem: Not having default subtitles, and wanting to get Portuguese subs as default...:rolleyes:

I realized you created stream #31 so you don't mess with other subs already in there. But how do I find what is the byte to change to PT subs and make them appeared by default???:confused:

Any help would be apreciated, mpucoder.

Thx.

mpucoder

19th October 2002, 17:18

I'm still looking for what sets a subtitle on by default. It had been my belief that a SETSTN command existed in some PGC to do this, but I now have my doubts. I have an example DVD which demonstrates features of subpictures (wiping, fading, scrolling) and there is no need to turn on the subtitles. But, I can't find any command turning them on, so I'm looking at other things.
Until then, you can always insert a pre command to turn them on. If there is a command setting the wrong subtitles, edit the command by right clicking it, and change the stream number to the correct one.

About my use of 31, I used it only to make the byte to edit easy to find. Placing it in a SETSTN command doesn't create a substream, or interfere with any existing ones. You can use any value in the original command, just as long as you know to look for 80h + the number.

FilipeAmadeuO

20th October 2002, 12:31

I´ve found a way to the movies that has only one subtitle. Or that we riped all the other.
Try to add a pre-comand in the end of your VTS_PGC and put it like (SetSTN) Set Subpicture Stream Nr and select number 32 (you got to right it).
This way the only subtitle is always as default

FilipeAmadeuO

20th October 2002, 15:38

It works for me !!! But sometimes you got to try to put the (SetSTN) Set Subpicture Stream Nr and select number 32 in the first pre-comand.
I´ve done 2 movies (Moulin Rouge R2 and Top Gun R2) and in Moulin Rouge i´ve put it in the end and works but in Top Gun it only works in the begining of pre-comand.
And you can also uso the POP´s to force the subtitle and don´t allow to change it.

The IFOEDIT is excelent. Every time i learn someting some .
Derrow keep on the good work. You´re the man.

Drylook

21st October 2002, 21:52

Obrigado Filipe... Vou já experimentar...

Any other clues will be apreciated...
Thanx guys.

FilipeAmadeuO

22nd October 2002, 00:26

But its strange. It works on the DVD play of Ifoedit and not on my Grundig player. Try it.

Drylook

22nd October 2002, 15:18

Yep... Same here!:(
It works on Ifoedit Play but not on the standalone (Sony)...

There's got to be another way...:sly:

Drylook

25th October 2002, 19:14

C'mon guys... No more ideas???

Did you find anything more mpucoder?

I'm just keeping the movies with English audio and Portuguese subtitles. Then creating new IFO's which doesn't leave any command for subtitles (obviously).

FilipeAmadeu sugestion works only on PC but not on the standalone...:(

I'm completely clueless...:confused:

mpucoder

25th October 2002, 20:45

Not so far, the example I have that selects a default also has 98 titles and 36 title sets - far too complex. If anyone has a relatively simple movie I can examine, that would help. Either tell me about an R1 release that shows subtitles by default, and I'll see about obtaining it. Or email me (mpucoder at attbi.com) if you have all the ifo's of a movie that does this. Don't send the ifo's at first, I don't want a deluge.

mpucoder

25th October 2002, 22:56

Actually, there are two issues here, and I think even I am confusing them. What I've been looking into is better described as forced subpictures, those that appear even though you have subpictures off. And, of course, SetSTN can force a stream to display.
Default subpictures, on the other hand, are those that appear when you simply turn subpictures on. Those are determined by the preference you or the manufacturer set into the player. You might want to check what preference you set into your players (earlier players may not have this, and neither does ps2)
On Sony players: with the drawer closed, but no disk in, press "display". You will see a menu, move down to the last item "setup", go right to see a submenu, go down once to select "custom", then press enter. The first menu that comes up is the language preferences for OSD (the onscreen display you are using), menu, audio, and subpictures. Set these to your preference, by default audio is "original" meaning the first audio track on the disk, and subpictures default to "follow audio".

Drylook

27th October 2002, 02:34

Well, I've got that right on my Sony player.
Everything is selected in Portuguese (default audio, subpicture, etc) but still no success when playing a backup (movie only). I still need to change manually to Pt subpicture on the player remote control...:(

LaRu

28th October 2002, 10:03

Hi guys,

I was looking for the same thing. English audio with Dutch subtitles on by default. I tried everything in this thread but the same as you guys, I didn't get any positive results.

OK, yesterday, my wife went for a rent of 'We Were Soldiers'. It was what I needed. Dutch switched on by default.

I ripped the file and started studying it. Using IfoEdit, I wrote a completly new VIDEO_TS and VTS_01_0. Then, the subtitles were not switched on anymore. So, the problem had to be there.

I added a program chain command table (by extending the program map and than manually changing the setting for number of commands, etc...) to VTSM_PGCI_UT (of VTS_01_0).

I added the SetSTN 64 and tried. As a result, the subtitles were on by default. I read in this thread that there would be problems now when playing on a regular DVD player. I didn't try this yet (not burned the image). But I looked at the place where the subtitles were set and noticed also a cell command like

(Link subset)LinkTopCell.

I don't know yet if this command has something to do with actually displaying the subtitles (because there were alsso some calls like Link PGC : 15).

I'll try to find out if the subtitles are played on a burned DVD. But I'll also try to find out within the company I'm working (at SONY) if someone knows what to do.

Please keep this thread up until the problem is solved,

Cheerio,

Rudi

Mancubas

28th October 2002, 14:26

Hi

We will all sit tight on your responce!!!

Good Luck, thx for sharing your experiments with us.

LaRu

30th October 2002, 09:37

Hi friends,

Yesterday evening, I burned ‘We Were Soldiers’ on a DVD-RW and tried in my SONY player. Without any interference from my side, the movie started with Dutch subtitles on by default.

I’ll explain again what happened, and what I did to let it work.

So, a few days ago, my wife rented this movie. Looking at it, I noticed that it had Dutch subtitles switched on by default. Immediately (after the show), I ripped it to my hard-disk and started studying it. I did find out some interesting things about the VM instructions. Especially the way to set the subtitles on.

This was already explained before in this thread, but playing on normal DVD-players, the subtitles were gone again. So, you can imagine I was really happy yesterday that I saw them on my burned DVD (on a regular player).

How ???

The first thing I did was, using IfoEdit, to create a new VIDEO_TS and VTS_01_0 and to rip all streams except English audio and Dutch subtitles. When I played the movie after that, the default subtitles were gone so I had to restart them again.

Start IfoEdit and open VTS_01_0.IFO (i.e. main movie in my case). Goto VTS_PGCTI and then select VTS_PGC_1.

Look until you find the entries :

(e4) PGC Command Table start byte (0)
(ee) PGC Program Map start byte (ec)

So, we notice that there is no Command Table, so we need to add one manually.

[DERROW: maybe you can, when creating new .IFO’s create also an Program Command Table with one pre-command, e.g. NOP]

Goto the PGC Program Map. Insert (NOT ADD) 16 programs. They will all have value 0. Make sure that the program which was first before inserting, is situated after the inserts on address (fc).

Edit now (by clicking on each command) the values as following

00 --- pre commands (1)
01 -/
00 --- post commands (0)
00 -/
00 --- cell commands (0)
00 -/
00 --- size of command table (15)
0f -/
00 ---
00 |
00 |
00 |-- 8 bytes 0 = NOP
00 |
00 |
00 |
00---

Go back to the line (e4) and change it to :

(e4) PGC Command Table start byte (ec)
(ee) PGC Program Map start byte (fc)

Save, Quit and startup IfoEdit again. Load VTS_01_0. and now you’ll see the command table.

OK. This is quite a way we did go.

Now, all we have to do is add commands so go to the first command and left click on it to bring up the hex-edit window.

Change the values to:

51 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 = (SetSTN)Set Subpicture Stream nr 64

add also a cell-command, left click on it and change the values to :

20 01 00 00 00 00 00 01 = (Link Subset) LinkTopCell.

Now, go to CELL PLAYBACK (a little down in the PGC) and search for:

Cell_1: command Nr (0 = no command) (0)

Change this into:

Cell_1: command Nr (0 = no command) (1)

Save all and the job is done.

[DERROW: try it and test it. It can be added to IfoEdit but other cases have to tested also

- keep multi subtitles in the final image and select your favorite for default, or
- main movie is not in VTS_01 but in another VOB, … etc. ]

Good Luck all.
:D

mpucoder

30th October 2002, 15:35

I think I see what is happening here, according to my documentation on SPRM 2, the one that selects subpictures, bit 6 (value 64) needs to be set to turn on subpictures.
It looks like there is no magic value hidden somewhere on DVDs to determine the default stream, only SetSTN. The value 64 alone selects stream 0 ON. If you want to select another stream add 64 to the stream number (and 128 for the SetSTN command).
By not setting bit 6, you are selecting a stream, but it will be off. What good is this? It determines what stream displays when the user simply turns on subpictures.
Other values: 62 means no subpictures (trying to turn them on does nothing), 63 means forced subpictures (stream 0, user cannot turn them off)

Derrow

30th October 2002, 16:53

Originally posted by LaRu

[DERROW: maybe you can, when creating new .IFO’s create also an Program Command Table with one pre-command, e.g. NOP]

I thought, I already did an implementation to be able to add commands to an empty 'Command-table' in a PGC, didn't I ?

If you right click the mouse over 'There are no Commands', you should get a context-menu, where you can select 'Add Command'.

Rickard

30th October 2002, 19:47

Could someone please explain this to us mortals?

How do i do this?

Goto the PGC Program Map. Insert (NOT ADD) 16 programs. They will all have value 0. Make sure that the program which was first before inserting, is situated after the inserts on address (fc).

Do i do it in IfoEdit??

mpucoder

30th October 2002, 20:43

According to Derrow's post above, that is the hard way to insert a command table.

Rickard

30th October 2002, 20:58

Give me the easy way :D

Or someone maybe can be more detailed about this or even make a guide??

mpucoder

30th October 2002, 21:01

"If you right click the mouse over 'There are no Commands', you should get a context-menu, where you can select 'Add Command'."

Rickard

30th October 2002, 21:36

Thanks Mpucoder. I didnt use 0.94 :)

LaRu: Can you explain this in a more easy understanding way??

00 --- pre commands (1)
01 -/
00 --- post commands (0)
00 -/
00 --- cell commands (0)
00 -/
00 --- size of command table (15)
0f -/
00 ---
00 |
00 |
00 |-- 8 bytes 0 = NOP
00 |
00 |
00 |
00---

Go back to the line (e4) and change it to :

(e4) PGC Command Table start byte (ec)
(ee) PGC Program Map start byte (fc)

FilipeAmadeuO

31st October 2002, 01:21

MPUCODER is absolutely right.
The easy way to turn a subtitle on is to add a pre-comand in the end of the PGC that we want to turn the subtitle and put SetSTN 64 .
I can only do it by editing the hex and typing
51 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00
This way the first subtitle ( 0X20) is always set on by default.
For other subtitles is the way that MPUCODER described , just change the SEt STN 64 + n X 128 ( Where n = number of subtitle OX2n )

Please try it and post here the results.

Rickard

31st October 2002, 08:16

I think i get this. It worked on my PC with English subtitles going on by default but i havent burned yet. I have 2 subtitles (English and Swedish). Swedish is 0X23. What would be the hex number for that one? 51 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 like?

LaRu

31st October 2002, 08:59

Hi all,

I tried yesterday in IfoEdit to right click on the 'No PGC Command Table' and I did get nothing. There is no context menu to add commands. Probably (I saw it somewhere) Derrow added it in 0.95. But that is still beta I believe.

This week-end is a long one for me. I'll try more things out about setting default subtitles (even when more subtitles are kept). I'll try to make a guide about that usign the easy way (Derrow added the context menu) and the hard way (no context menu). I'll also give hex output for other subtitles.

Rudi.

Rickard

31st October 2002, 09:20

I can right click and get that context menu in 0.94

LaRu

31st October 2002, 09:21

Rickard,

YES, all work is done in IfoEdit. This is for me the best application on the (freeware) market to change things (thanks to DERROW).

To explain (because in my version of IfoEdit 0.94), there is no menu available to add a program command if the program command table is not present. So, when using that one, there is no easy way (otherwise, I would have used it).

In VTS_01_0.IFO (the main movie IFO, NOT VIDEO_TS.IFO), locate the program map table. The correct place is described in my posting.

A program command table, with one NOP command, consists of 16 bytes.
- 2 bytes (Nr of Pre-commands)
- 2 bytes (Nr of Post-commands)
- 2 bytes (Nr of Cell-commands)
- 2 bytes (length of the command table)
- 8 bytes (for each command).

So, because there is in 0.94 no menu to add a program command ON AN EMPTY PROGRAM COMMAND TABLE (there is one if you already have commands), we have to add them manually.

So, we have (something like it, I don't know by heart)

(e4) PGC Command Table start byte (0)
(ee) PGC Program Map start byte (ec)
...

No Program Command Table

Program Map Table
Program 1 ...
Program 2 ...

Right click on 'Program 1 ...' and select : INSERT PROGRAM.
Repeat this step again 15 times (so you added 16 new programs).

CHECK : the original 'Program 1 ...' should be on address [fc].

We want the program command table to look like this

- nr of pre-commands : 1 [0001]
- nr of post-commands : 0 [0000]
- nr of cell-commands : 0 [0000]
- table size : 15 [000f]
- Pre-Command : NOP [00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00].

So you have to change the program maps you inserted to those values :

Program 1 : 0 [00]
Program 2 : 1 [01] ... those two make [0001] = pre-commands
Program 3 : 0 [00]
Program 4 : 0 [00] ... those two make [0000] = post-commands
Program 5 : 0 [00]
Program 6 : 0 [00] ... those two make [0000] = cell-commands
Program 7 : 0 [00]
Program 8 : 15 [0f] ... those two make [000f] = table size
Program 9 : 0 [00]
Program 10 : 0 [00]
Program 11 : 0 [00]
Program 12 : 0 [00]
Program 13 : 0 [00]
Program 14 : 0 [00]
Program 15 : 0 [00]
Program 16 : 0 [00] ... these eight = [00 ... 00] = NOP
Program 17 : 1 THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL ONE.

Now, if you change the addresses as described in previous posting, you will have a program command table, with one NOP pre-command and the program map is the same.

I hope this helps.If not, wait for IfoEdit 0.95 and you'll probably (I don't know yet) be able to add a command to an empty command table by just right clicking on it.

Cheers,

Rudi.

LaRu

31st October 2002, 09:25

Hi,

question !!!!

Has someone already tried to use the method but without the 'Link SubSet' Cell-command? I don't know if this needed, but it is possible that removing it prevents the display of subtitles on a regular DVD player. Some of you guys did set the subs, but didn't see them on a normal DVD player.

So maybe this command is necessary also.

An comments on this are welcome.

Rudi.

LaRu

31st October 2002, 09:29

Derrow,

when we load an .IFO in IfoEdit, it's displayed in the top list-box.

Is it possible to provide a menu item (or a context menu) to delete them from this one.

example: suppose I loaded VIDEO_TS and VTS_O1_0, and I recreated new one (using VOB extra's), I'll have 4 entries in the list box. I want to get rid of p.e. three of them. Now, I've to quit IfoEdit, Restart it and load the wanted one.

It would be much easier if we could delete them without quiting.

Hope this can be implemented.

Thanks,

Rudi

Rickard

31st October 2002, 19:17

I did it!! :D

Ripped Collateral Damage with IfoEdit 0.92 and only spared Swedish subtitles and English audio. Burned the DVD and started it in my Philips standalone DVD player. It started subtitles set to off.

Started upp IfoEdit 0.94 and clicked at VTS_PGC_1 and scrolled down to the text "There is no PGC Command Table". Right click on that text and choosed "Add precommand" and added the following hex value: 51 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00

Save it and then i burn it with Nero. Once again i put it in my standalone Philips DVD player and Swedish subtitles starts automaticly! So kewl! :D :D

OXV

4th November 2002, 01:12

Not sure if this info will help any but....I ripped Akira and split it into 2 discs, afterwards the movie starts up witout any subtitles just like on the DVD.

However, as soon as I edit the pre-command in the VIDEO_TS.IFO > VMGM_MAT > First Play PGC > PGC Command Table to jump to the the root or title menu, in order to bypass the FBI warnings and production logos, it defaults with the english subtitles on.

I checked for a setSTN command but could not find any in the main movie ifo. I looked within the VTS_PGCITI and the VTS_PGCI_UT as I believe,if I read this post right, one of them is where the command was supposed to be ??

LaRu

4th November 2002, 08:57

OXV,

when a movie jumps around within the 'file system' of the movie, it's possible that the 'set default subtitle' command is located somewhere else (e.g. menu commands). But I'm sure that it must be somewhere.

LaRu

4th November 2002, 09:11

Rickard,

you see ... it works. I hope my last sending help you out a little bit. And you answered my question about the 'Link SubSet'-command. It seems to me that you didn't use this at all so probably it is not needed.

STRANGE THING !!!! I've to check my release of IfoEdit because when I right-click on the No Program Command Table, I don't get a menu to add commands. Maybe I still have IfoEdit 0.93.

Will look into this.

Rudi

turner6

4th November 2002, 11:42

Laru and Rickard,

Good job ! It works very well.

But I have one question: why do we have to add this cell-command (link Subset) LinkTopCell and change the cell_1: command Nr (0 = no command) (0) to (1).

I only added the (SetSTN) Set Subpicture Stream nr 64 and it works without adding anything.

Thanks for your answer.

LaRu

4th November 2002, 15:16

I added it because it worked the first time with me, but I didn't try it without. Rickard did it and it seems not to be necessary so forget about it.

Good for you that it worked.

Rudi

Rickard

4th November 2002, 20:19

Splitted and ripped Blade 2 yesterday and buy adding that little pre command my preselected subtitles kicks in automaticly on both DVDs :)

Mancubas

4th November 2002, 23:49

Originally posted by Rickard
Splitted and ripped Blade 2 yesterday and buy adding that little pre command my preselected subtitles kicks in automaticly on both DVDs :)

Hi

Would you mind writing a mini guide on how you managed to turn off the subtitles on start up from both DVD's

Thx, in advance..

Drylook

5th November 2002, 01:28

Good job guys... It really works.:D
I found that you only need the precommand setting subs to 64.

I also found a way to set your default audio!
Just give the status 32768 to the audio stream you want to start by default (in PGC 1). Now just update your audio properties with the corrected info and don't forget to SAVE.

turner6

5th November 2002, 13:56

Mancubas,

here is your miniguide :

) Open the VTS_XX_0.ifo (your main movie).
If your main movie is in the VTS_01_0.ifo, open the VTS_01_0.
2) Check the second part of the ifo edit screen.
and check the value of the subpicture in the title set movie
(attributes) that you want to keep for example: id: 0x20 or
id: 0x21 .......
in most cases, 0x20 is the value for the English subtitles.
3) now click twice on the VTS_PGCITI (part one of the ifoedit
screen using the left button of your mouse).
4) Click on the last VTS_PGCx only once with the left button (mouse).
5) Now scroll down the second part of the ifoedit screen slowly
to check where where are located the precommand and cellcommand
values.

1st possibility: there are precommand in the description.

Place your cursor on the LAST PRECOMMAND (not the cell command).
Click with the right button of your mouse and choose
AddPrecommand.
You now see a new precommand with a NOP value.
Click once on the new precommand with the left button of your
mouse.
You see the following value: 0000000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .....
Place your cursor on the first 00 value and change it with 51
Do you remember your subtitles value ?
If this one was 0x20 enter the value C0 in the 5th bytes, you should see the following values:
0000000 51 00 00 00 c0 00 00 00 ........
if the value was 0x21 enter c1 in the 5th bytes
0x22 enter c2
0x23 enter c3
0x24 enter c4
.....
Click on the save option and check the result.

2nd possibility: you don't have any precommand in the description.
Search for the text: there is no PGC Command Table.
Right click on the text (right button of your mouse) and choose
add precommand.
You now see a new precommand with a NOP value.
Click once on the new precommand with the left button of your
mouse.
You see the following value: 0000000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .....
Place your cursor on the first 00 value and change it with 51
If this one was 0x20 enter the value C0 in the 5th bytes, you should see the following value
0000000 51 00 00 00 c0 00 00 00 ......
if the value was 0x21 enter c1 in the 5th bytes
0x22 enter c2
0x23 enter c3
0x24 enter c4
.....
Click on the save option and check the result.

Rickard

9th November 2002, 21:51

I'm not sure i really understand the way to get the right hex value when you get a high ID number. I ripped and stripped Spiderman and the Swedish subtitle ID is 0x31.

51 00 00 00 ?? 00 00 00

Can someone explain what to put in there and why?

turner6

9th November 2002, 23:07

I think you have to check the position of the subtitles;
let's say that you see the following subtitles available for a dvd :
subpicture 1 english: (2 bit-rle) x'021'
subpicture 2 german x'022'
subpicture 3 swedish (2 bit-rle) x'023'

If you want the FIRST subtitle (subpicture 1), its value is C0
if you want the SECOND subtitle (subpicture 2), its value is C1
if you want the THIRD subtitle (subpicture 3), its value is C2
....

It's a rule and there is a value assigned in hexa for each subtitle: C0 is assigned to the first subtitle, C1 to the following and on and on.

Rickard

10th November 2002, 09:40

I only have Swedish subtitles because i have already stripped out everything i dont need. As you can se in the picture below its only English audio and Swedish subtitles (ID: 0x31). If this id had been something like 0x2x i would have understand but i cant get it to work with thisone. Would be great if someone knew how to solve this. I'm sure its just mathematics?

http://w1.865.telia.com/~u86523428/subtitles.gif

Drylook

10th November 2002, 19:45

No Problem Rickard...

Just set as 51 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 and you'll have your Swedish subs on as default!:D

I do the same for Portuguese. It doesn't matter what's the ID code as long as they are the only ones there.

In fact there's a way to choose which you want by default for subs and for audio also...

Happy burning.:cool:

Rickard

10th November 2002, 21:45

:D :D :D :D It Works!!!!

It was IfoEdit v0.95 that made me think something was wrong. Take a look at this pic: http://w1.865.telia.com/~u86523428/ifoerror.gif

It is Collateral Damage stripped with only English audio and Swedish subtitles. I have added the pre command the usual way to make my prefered subtitles kick in automaticly. Strange that it shows different info??

Jaffo

16th November 2002, 04:36

For me the above method only selects the sub to be displayed, it does not actually turn the subs on. In version 0.95 of IfoEdit it displays (off) at the side of the SetSTN when selecting the subpicture stream command, does this mean the selected sub is off and not auto displayed?

TIA

sunlux

28th November 2002, 15:09

OK, but how set this subpicture to ON.

Please help

mpucoder

28th November 2002, 21:00

Turner6 has it right, IfoEdit0.95 is incorrect.
Here's a rundown of the values.
First, bit 7 of the byte must be set to indicate that the subpicture value (SPRM 2) is to be changed, so all values from 0x00 to 0x7f do nothing.

0x80 to 0x9F select subpicture 0 to 31, but OFF (can be turned on by user)
0xA0 to 0xBD are invalid
0xBE select NO subpicture
0xBF select subpicture 0 FORCED (ON and cannot be turned off by user)
0xC0 to 0xDF select subpicture 0 to 31, and ON (can be turned off by user)
0xE0 to 0xFF are invalid

sunlux

29th November 2002, 00:13

This work.

I'm happy.

You're great man.

mikegun

30th November 2002, 18:55

Originally posted by mpucoder

0x80 to 0x9F select subpicture 0 to 31, but OFF (can be turned on by user)
0xA0 to 0xBD are invalid
0xBE select NO subpicture
0xBF select subpicture 0 FORCED (ON and cannot be turned off by user)
0xC0 to 0xDF select subpicture 0 to 31, and ON (can be turned off by user)
0xE0 to 0xFF are invalid

hi,

I tried c0 on bit 7. the subs are displayed by default but I can not turn the subs off ?!?

regards, mike

p.s. forget about that, found user prohibition on that, lol

mpucoder

30th November 2002, 20:50

Huh? C0 on bit 7 - I do not understand what that means.

bit 7 is the most significant bit of the byte, and must be set in the byte for any change to take place. The SetSTN command can change any or all of the audio, subpicture, or angle values in use (stored in SPRM 1, 2, and 3 respectively).
In that command byte 3 is for audio, byte 4 is for subpicture, and byte 5 is for angle.
Byte 6 and 7 are not used.

GrandMstrBud

8th January 2003, 03:22

Could someone make up a guide on how to set default subtitles and how to set them from displaying automatically. I tried a few things from this forum and nothing worked. I will give it a try again and see what happens.

Damir Secki

18th January 2003, 17:54

Hello!

I ripped and split 6th sense. The stupid czech subtitles starts everytime by default.

I tryed to edit the pre command to 51 00 00 00 c1 00 00 (The english subtitles) but the czech subtitles starts every time! (even if I change to c2, c3 or whatever). Is it possible to turn them complitly off?

vikodin

14th March 2003, 20:45

Towards the beginning of this thread someone said "the only way I experienced so far is reauthoring. In DVDmaestro you have a bunch of options for that. You can choose the default audio and subtitles (on or off)." Can anyone provide more details? I have yet to see a simple checkbox to select the default audio and subs ... am I just using an older version of DVDMaestro?

Navellint

24th March 2003, 16:41

Originally posted by Damir Secki
Hello! the czech subtitles starts every time! (even if I change to c2, c3 or whatever). Is it possible to turn them complitly off? Can't you uncheck these subtitles in DVDdecrypter when you switch to stream processing and enable stream processing? Then go back to the beginning of this thread to get the other things right. Of course then you'll lose the subtitles completely.

GrandMstrBud

29th April 2003, 17:35

I hope this helps.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41829

LCJansen

13th November 2004, 20:40

Originally posted by FilipeAmadeuO
It works for me !!! But sometimes you got to try to put the (SetSTN) Set Subpicture Stream Nr and select number 32 in the first pre-comand.
I´ve done 2 movies (Moulin Rouge R2 and Top Gun R2) and in Moulin Rouge i´ve put it in the end and works but in Top Gun it only works in the begining of pre-comand.
And you can also uso the POP´s to force the subtitle and don´t allow to change it.

The IFOEDIT is excelent. Every time i learn someting some .
Derrow keep on the good work. You´re the man.

Felipe, preciso de ajuda. It is possible to add new subtitles without reauthor the entire dvd? Is this possible with IfoEdit, Menu Edit, or another software?

Please, someone help me!