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Mac Sidewinder
11th October 2002, 15:12
Just did this movie last night. I found it to be very uncompressable. I had to throw a lot of bitrate at it to get it to look good. I ended up having to do a 2 cd rip, res of 624x464, bitrate of 2117, mp3 vbr audio, nuetral bicubic resizing, b-frames on, and a final filesize of 1380mb. I still only got a 62% load factor. It looks very good though.
when I saw that I was going to have to go to 2 cds I figured that I could switch from mp3 to ac3 audio. No luck though. This is the first movie that I have run into that is this uncompressable. I could have use a softer resize but I don't like the blurry effect. Anyone else have this expierence with this one?
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manono
11th October 2002, 15:28
Hi Mac-
I guess the widescreen version was unavailable to you? It, of course, would be much more compressible.
Mac Sidewinder
11th October 2002, 17:11
Yeah, I picked up the video at our local BJs (warehouse outlet) and the only version they had was the fullscreen. I prefer widescreen though. But I have done fullscreens before but haven't encountered one that was this bad.
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agent2099
12th October 2002, 02:43
Fullscreen = :devil:
superflex
14th October 2002, 06:27
i rip the dvd on one cd and it turned out very good for me
cant remember what the res was but during high motion scene it was blocky but only when i watched it on my monitor. watching it on my tv you couldnt really see blocks on high motion scene. will have to get back to you on the info in which i rip the movie. the only prob is i can only tell you the res but cant tell you the bit rate i ripped it in. does anybody know of a prog that tells you about a certain movie? when i cut the credits it was only 1hr 24min.
manono
14th October 2002, 07:10
Hi-
does anybody know of a prog that tells you about a certain movie?
GSpot1.1 (http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Editing/gspot11.zip)
karloz1
18th October 2002, 18:00
I did a 1 cd rip, and even cut off the end credits. It still looks bad. The movie is only 94 minutes full, and probably less then 90 without the credits. I used the resolution of 608 x xxx (i think 272). Divx5 - two pass with Gordion Knot. Is there a filter or something that would help it? Any suggestions? My vbr mp3 was only like 50mb, 96kbps vbr, so the other 650mb went to the movie, but it still looks horrible. I'm trying it again tonight, so thanks in advance to anybody who replies within the next 12 hours.
JohnMK
18th October 2002, 18:17
Switch to ogg vorbis. Not only would --quality 1 ogg vorbis sound just as good (if not better than) as that 96kbit/s VBR mp3, but it'd be smaller and there'd be less multiplexing overhead, thereby leaving more room for the video on two accounts. Select 695 MB 1 CD, no audio. Video + Audio after multiplexing will be between 697-698MB.
Asmodian
19th October 2002, 00:42
Convolution3d is very useful for increasing compressibility without losing too many details.
BluDChyLD
19th October 2002, 13:05
4.3 aspect ratio is always a pain to compress. Usually anything over an hour in fullscreen looks bad on one cd.
Im encoding old movies at the moment which are all shot in 4.3 and I have to use 2 cds for 90 minute movies... It's a pain! The good thing about 4.3 is that you can get way with using a lower res that a widescreen movie, you don't noticed the pixelation as much.
bond@doom9
20th October 2002, 12:07
Same Problem with "Blair Witch Project"
2cds + 512x368 + 2385 kb/s -> ~60% CompTest :angry:
The movielength is just 1 hour and 10 min!!
BluDChyLD
20th October 2002, 12:55
Originally posted by bond@doom9
Same Problem with "Blair Witch Project"
2cds + 512x368 + 2385 kb/s -> ~60% CompTest :angry:
The movielength is just 1 hour and 10 min!!
That's the settings I used too, I used a soft bicubic filter instead to increase the compressibility a bit. This film is also very noisy which doesn't help either...
superflex
22nd October 2002, 05:43
Thanx manono. sorry it took soo long to tell you about my movie. been busy here and gone quite a bit, you know job hunting thing. anyways the movie is 528x400 res 192 vbr mp3 4:3 aspect ration, avg bitrate 963kb/s. was disappointed that it was 4,3 ratio as i like to encode at 16,9 ratio. counldnt get the latter ratio. anyways thats my encode and like i said it looks really good on my tv as tv's hide blocks and the monitor doesn't. let me know if you have any quest.
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