dvd2svcd hangs

[layer3maniac]

I'm trying to encode Monsters Inc. I ripped it using the latest version of DVD Decrypter but dvd2svcd just hangs during the dvd2avi portion of the process. Any ideas?
TIA, Greg

[layer3maniac]

Well, I ripped it again using Smart Ripper and it worked fine so this must be an issue with the new version of DVD Decrypter. Maybe it messed up the IFO file somehow?

[UltimateDBZ]

Oooooh my dear lord. If I don't break down and kick you in the head right now! :D j/k But seriously, you just did 2 of the oldest mistakes in the book. Had you done a search you would've found this out in 1/20 of the time.

First of all, you are NEVER EVER EVER EVER to use DVD Decrypter with DVD2SVCD, it doesn't work. Second, you are NOT to use SmartRipper unless the following does not work. You are to use Internal Ripping routines (in DVD2SVCD), as it works 99% of the time. If for some reason that fails, use the included vStrip routines. As a last resort, use SmartRipper. But NEVER use DVD Decrypter.

[layer3maniac]

Well, I've ripped dozens of movies with dvd decryptor and encoded them to svcd using dvd2svcd before without any problems. Anyway, "Monsters Inc" STILL won't completely encode. It hangs in the cce portion of the process now. I also tried using the internal routines of dvd2svcd to rip it but the same thing happens. I'm not sure why? I ripped and encoded "Scorpion King" today and it went fine. Hmmmm... I wonder if encoding the 3d animation is more memory intensive than "normal" movies? I just added another 256 of ram tonight and lowered cce encoding to 3 pass vbr. I'll post my results later tonight...

[markrb]

layer3maniac CCE hanging is an old and common issue. Try doing a search for CCE crash or hang.

You have been lucky to get DVDdecrpyter to work at all, but the official word is that ripper is not recomended for use and known to cause serious issues with DVD2SVCD.
Use the supplied rippers only.
If you want help here and you ripped with something other then the two supplied don't even bother posting until you have re-ripped with one of the official ones. It's just way too common a problem and there is no way for use to know how other rippers handle the VOB files.
It is very hard for us to help unless we can start at a common point of reference.

Mark

[hoozdapimp]

hey mods isn't it time to make it mandatory to do at least 2 or 3 searches before posting? :D

[layer3maniac]

You have been lucky to get DVDdecrpyter to work at all, but the official word is that ripper is not recomended for use and known to cause serious issues with DVD2SVCD. I'm a lucky guy, what can I say? :) What other "official words" are there? Is there an "official list" of "official words" somewhere? Use the supplied rippers only. If you want help here and you ripped with something other then the two supplied don't even bother posting until you have re-ripped with one of the official ones. It's just way too common a problem and there is no way for use to know how other rippers handle the VOB files. It is very hard for us to help unless we can start at a common point of reference. I did "re-rip with one of the official ones" - the internal ripping routines. Read my last post. CCE hanging is an old and common issue. Try doing a search for CCE crash or hang. Was there ever a solution to this "old and common issue"? The additional memory and decreased vbr passes seems to be working so far. Oh well, thanks anyway...

[markrb]

Is there an "official list" of "official words" somewhere?

These sticky things in the forum above this post might lead you to something?


I did re-read your post. I was just confirming what UltimateDBZ said and that you seemed to reject. Just taking a minute to do a search on DVDdecrypter and you would see the many posts of issues with that software.

If you want help here you might want to keep an open mind. Most things are not said just to piss you off they are simply from experience and hundreds of problem posts. People remember and you will quickly see that ones that are willing to work with the other forum members tend to get answers while those that critisize and reject quickly get ignored.

Mark

[layer3maniac]

I was just confirming what UltimateDBZ said and that you seemed to reject. Just taking a minute to do a search on DVDdecrypter and you would see the many posts of issues with that software. So, what are you trying to say, you have no interest in hearing about successful uses of "that software"? I didn't reject UltimateDBZ's statement, I just shared my own successful experiences.
If you want help here you might want to keep an open mind. Most things are not said just to piss you off they are simply from experience and hundreds of problem posts. People remember and you will quickly see that ones that are willing to work with the other forum members tend to get answers while those that critisize and reject quickly get ignored. Frankly, I would rather be ignored than told to do a search for something. I can do that all by myself. Why have an active forum if you're just going to tell people to search out their own answers from the archives?

[layer3maniac]

OT
BTW Mark, are you a Patriot's fan? Cool!

[hoozdapimp]

because the people moderating (and those who like to help out, like me) get sick and tired of repeating the same answers to the same questions...

take this for a small example...pretend that people didn't use phone books or online phone listings, etc...don't you think the 411 operators would be a little overwhelmed and annoyed at answering to everyone else's questions when they could do a simple search and find it themselves?

there's rules around here and if you don't want to follow them don't expect to get much help. the search function is there for a reason. for new people to learn from old people's mistakes and problems.

[xp_eric]

I allways use DVD Decrypter because of its userfriendlyness, the abillity to rip only those parts I need to save disk space and because I usually rip and encode later.

I've done about 50 DVD's and NEVER had any problem / issue.

cheers,

:sly: Eric

[layer3maniac]

because the people moderating (and those who like to help out, like me) get sick and tired of repeating the same answers to the same questions... That makes NO sense. If it's a NEW question, I seriously doubt if you would even HAVE an answer. After searching through dozens of threads, I STILL haven't found the solution to cce hanging. I myself am on many forums, I personally ENJOY "repeating the same answers to the same questions" because they're NOT "old questions" to the people ASKING them. If you're so "sick and tired" of helping people, then perhaps you shouldn't claim that you enjoy doing it. take this for a small example...pretend that people didn't use phone books or online phone listings, etc...don't you think the 411 operators would be a little overwhelmed and annoyed at answering to everyone else's questions when they could do a simple search and find it themselves? People who are able to find the answers to their questions (or phone numbers) on their own don't really NEED any help (or 411 operators), do they? This is just insane. It's just too much trouble to answer a "silly" question but it's NOT too much trouble to spend your time chastizing them for not searching for the answer themselves? there's rules around here and if you don't want to follow them don't expect to get much help. the search function is there for a reason. for new people to learn from old people's mistakes and problems. So I wonder then, how does ANYONE get "help around here"? Either their questions have already BEEN asked and it's too much trouble to answer them, or they haven't been asked and you don't HAVE the answers. sheesh... Thanks for NOTHING. :(

[markrb]

layer3maniac like it or not that is the way we work here. If you have searched and cannot come up with an answer then there is no reason not to post, but have a little faith that in over 100,000 posts somebody has had the same problem as you. Why waste precious space and time when a simple serach will solve the problem.

Unless a "Success" is a common and a repeatable event by all people there is no reason to recomend it. Even in that case the author and the forum have no control over the uses or actions of an outside piece of software. Without a common point of reference there is no way to narrow down a problem.
And once again there are many, many people here that have had their problems resolved simply by re-ripping with the internal routines.
It may work perfect for you and others, but until it's close to 100% how can we in good concious recomend it?
In short you are correct I, the author and most of this forum have absolutely no interest in hearing about success with any outside ripper.


You question is far from *New*. CCE hanging is one of the oldest and most common issues around.
And I think you are getting it. There is no one or final answer as to why it happens only things to try and not all will work for everyone. There is a huge thread in the advanced forum with dozens of things to try. Like shutting off the CCE anti noise filter, raising the luminance, using CCE 2.64 in safe mode or using CCE 2.50 in safe mode and many, many more. It's even listed in the Q+A if you care to read it.

We are here to help, but unless you are willing to work within a system that has been developed over the life of the forum it becomes almost impossible to help. Some sort of structure must be maintained or chaos will rule and nobody will be helped. We are far more structured then most other forums as this is meant as a place for serious discussion to get answers. We do not tolerate the kind of behavior you see at many other forums. We can be a little (or alot) anal at times, but we do this for the sake of the forum. We want it to stay as a place of learning and not degrade as so many have before us.

Stop being nitpicky about the way we work here if you want us to help (and we do want to help) we will , but work with us not against us. Don't like it, nobody is forcing you to come here. If you work within our established system you will find us most helpful and hard working. Work against us and you won't find us.


Ok so hoozdapimp's analogy was bad, but please I am sure you got the idea.

I am done with this conversation. As far as I am concerenced your question has been answered. You may not like that there really is no real answer to this, but it's not like we didn't try.

Honestly we want to help, but work with us and give us the benifit of the doubt.

Yes, I am a long time Patriots fan (grew up in Boston). They are playing like pure crap now and have seemed to have lost that fire that won them the Superbowl last year. If they are not careful the Rams won't be the only team not in the playoffs from last years Superbowl.

Mark

[UltimateDBZ]

Somebody's gonna find themself hit with the banning stick walking around with this attitude...

*walks off in total agreement with mark's last post*

[layer3maniac]

Somebody's gonna find themself hit with the banning stick walking around with this attitude... What attitude? My attitude? All I did was ask a simple question and rather than simply ANSWER it, you guys copped attitudes with ME.

So taking ONE or TWO seconds and ONE or TWO lines to answer people's simple questions even IF they've been asked and answered before is a waste of your time and the forum's space but spending HOURS and HUNDREDS of lines flaming them for doing it ISNT?

Don't sweat it, you don't have to ban me - I'm OUTTA HERE... :(

[layer3maniac]

It's a shame, really. I'm generally a nice guy, really I am. Most of the people I interact with actually like me once they get to know me. As a programmer, I could have assisted with compiling the latest sources on sourceforge. I was even thinking about writing my own frontend (that's my specialty). My audio frontends are quite popular. Oh well, see yall!

[Labersack]

What a shame layer3maniac has a attitude that is becoming more popular every day.
Because of reading every day the same questions you didn't find the real interesting and unanswered questions any more.
:(

[UltimateDBZ]

I didn't say your attitude, layer3, I simply said "somebody's". Yes, it was directed to you (obviously), but the fact that you replied as you did only admitted the fact that you realize yo've shown quite an attitude.

This topic is headed nowhere. Fast. Closed it has become.