Fit 3 ripped movies in one DVD+RW, Is it Possible?

[dafoofoo]

I would like to fit 3 DVD movies in one DVD+RW. I don't care about the extras or the original menues. I'll authored it with my own simple menues or even without menues to keep it extra simple.

When I rip a DVD movie the VOB file is usually 1Gb and a complete movie, thus I see no reason why 3 movies can't fit on a DVD+RW.

I've tried useing some programs bellow but after Grouping the VOB files together the movies get cut off. Once I get some guidance I'll figure out what I did wrong in the mean time don't ask... ;)

I would appreciate instructions from scratch (Startin at: Rip desired movie's from DVD's then...).

SOFTWARE in my possesion: IFO Edit, VOB Edit, DVD Decrypter, Neo DVD, SpruceUp and DVDit PE, I also have Cinema Craft unfortunatly I can not use it because I haven't upgraded my stable system, thus far, from Win98 SE.

Happy SYSTEM: :D
AMD 1.4Ghz
Windows 98 SE (When it crashes I'll put WIN 2000 pro)
256MB RAM
80GB HD
ATI AIW 32MB Video
HP200i DVD burner

Please help, some guidance, a link to a guid would help or a link to a forum that has the answers would help too. I've found similar guids but not exactly for 3 different movies from 3 different DVD's without compressing, encoding or re-encoding what ever... Just strip it out of the VOB file and burn 3 movies on one Disk be it wide screen or full screen what ever.

[oddyseus]

Hello there, what u r asking is quite simple. I do it all the time for my kids dvd.

Lets clarify some things.
1. A movie has a size of 3.5 to 7gbs the most I have seen till now. It consists of a set of 1gb vob files with consecutive numbering from vts_0?_1.vob to vts_0?_?.vob that contain the movie itself. The set includes also a vts_0?_0.ifo and bup that may contain the navigation commands or nothing and a vts_0?_0.vob that contain the AV part of the menu.

In order to fit 3 movies on a dvd-r u have to reencode each movie complete with video-audio, and subs if u want them, to 1.4gb. The best tool for this is CCE of course. Anything else and u will end up with blocky below acceptable standards video. So u have to stabilize your system and get CCE to work for you.

U have to do a little overhead thinking. Do u want original audio? or do u can live with mpeg 2 audio at 192khz? The later is half size than the former.

Open up Smartripper and select the 'files' tab. It will automatically select the main movie for you. Include in the selection the .ifo, bup and the menu vob files if they r not allready selected.

Rip them to your hd.

Open up dvd2avi and create a d2v project, while in the same time demuxing the audio.
Use vfapi codec to convert d2v to a pseudo avi that CCE accepts.
Do a 'One Pass VBR'.
Check the size of the resulting mpv video stream. If it is around 1.2gb u r most probably OK and u can keep the original audio as well.

Repeat the same procedure for the other 2 movies. Sum up the resulting audio-video part. They should be 4300mb at the most.

Open up your authoring prog.
Insert each one to its own title, create a menu to jump from one to another. Build the title, et voila. U r done.

I know it looks like a never ending job right now. But believe me its something u get the hung of it after a couple of times.

Doom's site has all the guides u will need for each step of the procedure.

[dafoofoo]

Thanks for the instructions, any help is appreciated, I'll save your instructions for when I get CCE installed and give it a shot. I'll e-mail you if I need any help if you don't mind.


In the mean time I would like to know if there's any other method that doesn't involve reencoding the video or using CCE.

I'd like to keep the video and sound in it's original DVD quality.

I think Spruce it up is part of the answer of the final stages of the process.
But how can I combine the 3 VOB files from 3 different DVD's to fit on one DVD+RW?????

[Sp33d]

Unless these DVD's are 1/2 hour each there's no way you'll get three movies onto a disc with re-encoding.

Alot of the authoring programs are going to require that you add a video and audio file seperately, which is the reason for the demuxing the audio. The authoring program will bring it all together.

[oddyseus]

I quite agree with sp33d. There is no way u can fit 3 full movies and extras to 1 dvdr. In fact u can't fit it in 2 dvdrs. U ll need at least 5 working the way u intend to.

The only possible way, providing of course the contents do not include a lot of action scenes that require disc space, is by reenconding.

Feel free to discuss any issue any time.

[oddyseus]

I quite agree with sp33d. There is no way u can fit 3 full movies and extras to 1 dvdr. In fact u can't fit it in 2 dvdrs. U ll need at least 5 working the way u intend to.

The only possible way, providing of course the contents do not include a lot of action scenes that require disc space, is by reenconding.

Feel free to discuss any issue any time.

@Sp33d. I dissagree with u. I have 3 dvdrs with 3 movies, main movie only, in them. All r disney stuff for my kids. The quality is excellent the sound is the original one.

[dafoofoo]

METHOD:
Using "DVD Decrypter" I've managed to rip 1 of the many VOB files which contained the Sound & a complete Video at a size of 1GB +/-.

I am able to play it on my HD as is, without IFO's, BUP files or reencoding it.

QUESTION:
If the VOB files are 1GB and have both Video & Audio Complete (that's not mentioning all the other stuff the VOB files contain). Then WHY can't we put 3 different VOB files into one DVD? Given that each DVD has 4.3GB of writing space.

MATH:
3 VOB files = 3GB +/-
PLUS:
1GB for NEW Authored IFO's & BUP's (which I doubt use up 1GB)
TOTAL: 4GB +/-

:confused:
WHY isn't it possible? Any possible method is welcome to answer...

Any Comments are welcome Good or Bad. Thanks in advance eitherway.

[Sp33d]

Which movie was only 1GB when ripped with DVDDecrypter? Even the very shortest of movies in 4:3 with 2 channel dolby digital would be at least 2GB.

[oddyseus]

u r getting it wrong. What u have ripped is only a part of the movie. The rest of the sequential files are containing the rest of it.

the 1gb vob u r talking about must contain the 1st 19-30mins of the movie. Pls check it out and report back.

On the other hand maybe u r having in your hand an old b/w vhs transfer to dvd that could very well be fitted in one vob file. Be sure though that the rest of them r not like that.

[dafoofoo]

I'm look into it now. "TOMB RAIDER" (The 1st VOB 1GB file) I'll see if it's complete. The last time I played it, it was really far into the movie. I didn't have time to sit back and watch it all. Sorry to have started this confusion, I tend to do that often.

Either way, if what you say is true then you can maybe still fit 2 movies in one DVD+RW correct?

That is if each movie is 2GB or less, I'm sure it will be a tight fit too on a 4.3GB DVD+R.

Re-encoding it may be the best way to fit 2-3 movies in one DVD+RW.

I’m probably wrong but I’ll let you know if the movie is complete or not, thank you for your time, that includes everyone who replied.

[mpucoder]

Here's a simple way to show you what we are talking about. Rather than play all of a vob file to see if it is the whole movie, play the next vob file. Suppose you are playing vts_01_1.vob, then play vts_01_2.vob, and you will see it is more of the movie. All the files named vts_xx_y.vob are segments of one long file for title set xx.

[oddyseus]

Using the default settings in CCE it it very easy to fit 2 common movies 90min each in a dvdr. With some tweaking managed to fit 3 disney films in one but I guess disney movies r less than 80min long.