Bitrate too high When using Subs

[disco340]

Has anybody ever encountered this problem. I have done 30 or so movies without a hicup but when I try to compile "The Salton Sea" with DVD Maestro it tells me the total bitrate is too high. At first I thought it might be the video stream so I reduced the max bitrate in CCE and unchecked the DVD compliant box, no luck. After trying may different variations I came to the conclusion that it was the subtitles. Every time I compile whithout them it works fine. I just recently downloaded the newsest version of Subrip to see if this would fix it but no luck, although Subrip gave me a warning telling me that the movie is closed captioned could this be my problem, if so does anybody know how to fix it.

Thanks

[slk001]

You have other issues. Closed Captioning data is lost when you re-encode (and it's not that big, anyway). Subtitles only take about 10kbps, which is really trivial compared to the overall max bitrate of 10.08Mbps for a DVD. Do you have a DTS track in this thing? A DTS stream can be up to 1.5Mbps, which will lower your max video to around 8.5Mbps, plus, you also need an audio track other than the DTS.

What was your maximum encoded bitrate? Check your video in BitRate Viewer and report on your true max bitrate.

[disco340]

My max bitrate is 8000 and no i'm not using the DTS track I am only using the AC3 track. If I compile without the Subtitles everything works fine even when I had the video stream at max of 9800. Any other sugestions

[auenf]

open up your .m2v in 'bitrate viewer' and see what the real maximum is.

Enf...

[atimoc]

Hi there !

I got the same prob.

It is really the subtitle, that triggers the prob !

I encoded '3days of te Condor', and authored with german, englisch and spanish audio and a simple menu - NO Problem:

The Project compiles in Maestro and the burned DVD(RW) played in my Philips DVD711 with absolutely no probs.

BUT when importing one subtitletrack, the project won't compile anymore complaining about 'Bitrate too high !'.


Information 'bout the streams:

video : mpeg2-half-d1 @ ~1700 avg. min: 500 max: 8000

aud-de : mp2-48000-mono-64kbps
aud-en : mp2-48000-mono-64kbps
aud-es : mp2-48000-mono-64kbps

subtitle : ~860 bmp ~ 480x80 4bpp 'compressed'


Any suggestions ?

[oddyseus]

Inserting the subs its just the drop that spills the water. At a certain point your combined audio/video/subs bitrate hits the roof.

as auenf suggested open bitrate viewer and see what your max bitrate is actually.

[atimoc]

I scanned the mpv in BitrateViewer:

vid: avg: 1655
peak: 5158

aud is definetly 64 kbps per track : 192 kbps

sub : ???

aud + vid = 5350 at peaks,
and that's ok with the specs for DVD !

like i said, the aud muxed with vid and burned played well.

i think the problem is not realy an exceeding the max poss. bitrate,
but sth. else.


i will do some testing ..

cya

[Matthew]

Getting same problem here, and it's not a bitrate problem - it's the original video stream (not re-encoded, just extracted) plus the 19 subtitle tracks.

It's a 2 disc movie and the second disc reauthored fine but the first is giving me shit. I even deleted the parsing files and redid the project from scratch, but still no luck...

[Matthew]

Deleting the last subtitle stream fixed the problem. But so did deleting the first 2 bitmaps only, so I did that. They were only copyright warnings.

[dvd_master]

Well, I'm getting this problem but I only have one subtitle track, and none of it is deletable. Anything?

[oddyseus]

Some of the bmps r corrupted. That is why you r getting the overflow error.

Ope them in a batch mode in photoshop and resave them all.

[dvd_master]

How do I do that with Photoshop, I have no experience there, opening in batch mode. And do I have to resave ALL of the subtitles?! There's over 2000!!

Whats wierd is it compiled multiple times without problems, then I went and added an extra menu and two scene select menus, and started getting the error, no changes to the video at all!!

I tried making a brand new project with just the video and subs, and it got further... but still that error.

[oddyseus]

Open a bmp
View the actions pallete and hit the record button
Click save the opened bmp and then close the picture
Stop recording
Name the action 'Save'

Goto to File/Automate
Locate the action u just recorded
As a Source select Folder and
Choose the folder that has the subs in
As Destination select Folder
select another folder to put them in
Hit the OK button

[dvd_master]

Sounds good, but where is the actions pallete? I looked at Window --> actions, but that didn't seem to have a record button.

And do I need to open all the subtitles to resave them?

[dvd_master]

Never mind, I found it.... did all that and it still didn't work.