VRO (.vro) in Adobe Premiere 6.5

[midiguy]

hello. I am new to VRO (.vro files created by DVD cameras), and have never even used a DVD camera. However, someone in my class has one, and we are using it for a video project in school. This is the plan:

- Record footage using his camera.
- load that footage into premiere 6.5
- edit in premiere 6.5
- export (either to VHS or some other media such as SVCD)

can premiere load VRO files directly? if it cannot, what steps do I have to take in order for premiere 6.5 to load the footage? also, are the VRO files progressive or interlaced? please reply as soon as possible, and thanks.

[cap4000]

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it say's on page "HEURIS’ DVD ConnexIT is a powerful new plug-in that allows you to instantly read video files from a DVD-RAM disc in Ulead Video Studio 4.0 ® , Apple Final Cut Pro ® , Adobe ® Premiere ® and other QuickTime applications. Now you can move quickly and easily from a Panasonic player/recorder or Hitachi DVD-RAM camera or even a Pioneer player/recorder to a home computer and back to a DVD in just a few simple steps:

[midiguy]

hmmm, not sure if I want to buy it...

[rinkel]

If you cannot, there is a solution.
I have a dmr-e20 dvdrecorder, which also supports RAM and creates a VRO file.
Just rename the file to VOB
Then there is a little problem: all movies are in that same VOB, there are no chapters or cells like a normal dvd. Use VOBtool from dracore to split into several vobs, then demux the vobs into mpeg and audio. Then you can edit those in ANY (mpeg) program.
It looks like a lot of work, it's not, and PERFECT quality !!

Rinkel

[midiguy]

yeah, that's what I heard... renaming it to VOB works for some of the DVD cams (but supposedly not for all).. that's kinda weird.. I guess maybe not all companies follow the same VRO specs, so some VROs can be loaded as VOBs perhaps..

either way, thanks.. but I don't really need to make chapters or cut up the VOB (VRO) in different parts.. I just need raw footage, it doesn't matter if it is one long clip. I wonder if premiere 6.5 will load it right up... I would hate having to convert that big ass VRO to a huffyuv (lossless) AVI..

*edit* demux the VOBs into MPEG and audio eh? just read that after.. if I do that, premiere should load it up. lemme check that out! thanks!

*edit* how exactly would I go about demuxing the VOB (VRO) to MPEG2? (without recompressing ofcoarse), thanks!

[rinkel]

Hi,
Renaming the VRO to VOB is simply not enough. PowerDVD can play it, but when you demux it to mpeg, any authoring program will just stop at the end of the first recording, even if you have a really big mpeg-file.
I suggest you use VOBtool anyway. It will create compliant VOB's and after demuxing those VOB's everything goes well. In VOBrator you can choose to merge all the movies (segments) to one VOB. Then demux that one (new) VOB will go fine.
So you have 2 options:

rename the VRO to VOB
1) 1 VOB (8 movies VRO) -> VOBtool -> 8 VOB's -> demux -> 8 mpeg-files
2) 1 VOB (8 movies VRO) -> VOBtool -> 1 VOB -> demux -> 1 mpeg-file

For demuxing the (new) VOB's you can use VobRator, it's on the mainsite i think. After demuxing you get 2 files, mpeg-file and ac3 audio-file. Demuxing will not recompress.

Believe me, VOBtool is the only tool that can handle VRO-files.
It's an old program and not designed for DVD-RAM, but it just works perfectly and should be added (IMHO) to the software on the mainsite for support of DVD-RAM

[midiguy]

hmm thanks.. so if I got it right, I do this:

Take my incompliant VOB (VRO) and load that in VOBtool.
Then, make myself a compliant VOB from that by extracting the data from the incomliant VOB (VRO) into a new compliant VOB (which is created by VOBtool).

Then, load this compliant VOB (created by VOBtool) into Vobrator and extract the data from this VOB into a standard MPEG-2 file (for video) and AC3 file (for audio, not that I need audio anyways!).

So the result is 1 compliant MPEG-2 video file (M2V) and 1 compliant AC3 file.

question, I assume we have to go through VOBtool first because Vobrator cannot load the incompliant VOB (VRO)? am I right?

*edit* I have downloaded VOBtool version 0.06 and vobrator version 0.2 beta, am I up to date with the versions?

[rinkel]

U GOT IT !

[midiguy]

thanks! I am going to test it tommorow when we bring the camera to my house! I will let you know how it works out!

[tomeczek]

Did it work?

If your final procedure is different than the one you posted, give details, please!

[Blue-Laser-27GB]

oh it works...believe me it works

[midiguy]

it sure does billy