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skutny
10th September 2002, 15:35
This is what I have, Intel P4-933, WinXP, Firewire card, Sony TVR310.

I transfered my home movies from Sony to Hardrive using firewire and Movie Maker in WinXP to an AVI file (Type-2), in Movie Maker I had the setting to 25mbps DVD quality (NTSC). (Nearly filed my 120 gig drive with 5.5 hours of AVI)

In Movie maker I edited the movie and saved as DVD compliant AVI, with VirtualDub I loaded the AVIs and saved to WAV.

I passed the (12)AVI's through CCE 2.5 using AVIsynth and a VBR 3 pass, min=0 ave=3500 max=9800 (using Doom9 CCE guide for settings with some modifications)

Loaded the avi's and WAV's into DVDMaestro and authored my 3 dvd's and burned with Prassi.

When I look at the DVD using PowerDVD 4 I see alot of combing, reading all the threads I understand why I see them on my monitor but I also see combing on my TV when I played in my stand alone DVD player.

Most threads talk about deinterlacing for monitor viewing, should I also deinterlace for TV use?

The picture on the TV is almost as good as if I was playing through the Camcorder except when there's fast action I see waht appears as combing and the picture vibrates or jumps when paused on the DVD but not on the camcorder.

Any Ideas or suggestions or recommendations?


:confused: skutny

Xesdeeni
10th September 2002, 15:56
You may have the order of the fields reversed (not swapped).

TV shows one field at a time. But we normally group pairs of fields into a frame for our video processing. That means one field actually occurs in time before the other one. But which one is first? That depends on the video format (see below). But if you don't get the field order right, the video will appear to "shudder" during movement. When there is not movement (as long as the fields are not also swapped) the image will look fine (if the fields are also swapped, even still images will look screwy).

So far, I'm pretty certain about these formats: For DV, the bottom field is first. For (interlaced) DVD, the top field is first. When you convert between these two, something needs to compensate for this.

I have frameserved from Premiere through AVISynth to TMPGEnc. In this case, I set the input to "Bottom Field First." There isn't a setting for the output, but things went fine.

When I exported from Premiere to CCE, there is nothing about the input in CCE, but there is a checkbox for "Upper field first." With this checked, things went fine here as well.

Xesdeeni

ulfschack
11th September 2002, 13:02
I think that wrong field order is not his problem as he refers to combing and not stuttering. My best guess is that somwhere along the line there has been either:

1) A vertical resize

2) Encoded interlaced material as were it progressive.

Divide an conquer ... :)

Cheers