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djy
10th September 2002, 02:33
to all svcd pimps-

i am using 109b3. over the last three weeks, my bathroom has become infested with printouts of guides and posts from this forum. i strive for perfection and the only way to achieve it is by experimenting. changing one variable at a time with small clips. d2s is an outstanding piece of work, however there is only one thing that continues to trouble me. getting the color output consistent with permanent subtitles.

the movie is an anime called jin-roh. about fifty percent of the time they come out the way i wish, black outline, filled in with yellow. the other half, i get a black outline and the yellow is missing...like no color was used at all. i tried a billion little tests in an effort to pinpoint a method which will work 100% everytime. but this sketchy sub problem continues to waste my time. i would be grateful for any advice or feedback regarding this issue. and i am also curious about the anti-aliasing color. is its purpose to blend the other two colors?

-thanks for your time, djy

LeonMcNichol
10th September 2002, 03:22
I have the same problem with that and actually posted. If you had done a search (or just scrolled down on the first page), you would have come across my thread. I'm not sure why it doesn't change the second color for multicolor subtitle streams. Just take a look at what I did to make the permanent subtitles come out right.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33092

djy
10th September 2002, 03:33
LeonMcNichol-

i saw you had the same problem and was kinda glad i wasn't alone on this one. it's weird. i just encoded a few samples of mononoke and the subs came out ok. i will increase the numbers samples to see if this problem is relative to the movie and not d2s. i wonder if markrb of some of the other veterans are aware of this issue and know of a fix within d2s. my wish is to crank out svcds using only one program. i thank you for your swift response and will attempt your method should all else fail.

-djy

LeonMcNichol
10th September 2002, 04:20
Princess Mononoke probably came out good, because it uses one color for the subtitles. I've noticed with the animes lately, they use two colors to show that another person is talking. (ie Yellow the normal and White for the second.) I noticed DVD2SVCD has only 4 colors. One color is the background, one is the antialiasing, one for the font and one is for outline. None for a second color font. There should be either 5 colors or something that would change the second color to the first color. I don't mind having both the same.

You can look to see if Mononoke has a second color font and try doing that chapter.

Known DVDs that have a second color that I've encoded:

Bubblegum Crisis OAV
Steel Angel Kurumi
Spriggan

These are all that I've encoded and encountered more than one color subtitles. Apparently Jin-Roh can be added to the list as well.