VERY VERY odd increase in encoding speed, then crash (Training day & CCE 2.50)

[Pickaxxe]

What's up folks,

today I tried to rip and convert Training Day. As you can see in the log, Temporal Smoother is on, as well as sharpen, bicubic resize and anti noise. Even with my XP1800, one wouldn't expect an RT of more than 0.9-1.0, especially for I never got beyond the 1.3 (no TS or sharpen) rate in other conversions (which seems too slow for my CPU, btw., but I can't find the bottleneck...). Now fasten your seatbelts, ladies and gentlemen... Training day was encoded at a speed of up to 2.1 !!!!! 0.8 RT's above my previosu max. encoding speed!!! At least that's what the programm said, I ain't trusting that, though. Then, at 20%, CCE crashed.

Are the two incidents somehow related? And if so, what can I do about it? I don't think this is your average CCE crash, that'S why I'm posting this.



Key found: DCD7BFA139
--------------------------------------------------------
- 29.08.02 04:56:46
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3
--------------------------------------------------------
Initializing
Initializing finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 29.08.02 04:56:49
- Free on drive F: 13556.29 mb
- Internal rip
--------------------------------------------------------
Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.vob
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.vob
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_3.vob
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_4.vob
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_5.vob
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_6.vob
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_7.vob

Ripping: J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.vob
Ripping: J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.vob
Ripping: J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_3.vob
Ripping: J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_4.vob
Ripping: J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_5.vob
Ripping: J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_6.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 8860

--------------------------------------------------------
- 29.08.02 05:08:12
- DVD2AVI
--------------------------------------------------------
Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- E:\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"E:\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[F:\cds\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[F:\cds\VTS_02_1.vob,F:\cds\VTS_02_2.vob,F:\cds\VTS_02_3.vob,F:\cds\VTS_02_4.vob,F:\cds\VTS_02_5.vob,F:\cds\VTS_02_6.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 29.08.02 05:13:21
- Free on drive F: 7662.97 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
--------------------------------------------------------
Found AC3 stream id: 0x82
Filename: F:\cds\Extracted_audio_2.ac3
Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: F:\cds\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -80 ms
Audio2 delay: -80 ms
Audio extraction finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 29.08.02 05:24:12
- Free on drive F: 7019.81 mb
- AUDIO conversion
--------------------------------------------------------

Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: F:\cds\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"E:\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "F:\cds\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "F:\CDS\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "F:\CDS\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ota( -d -80 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )
Audio conversion of F:\cds\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.


Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: F:\cds\Extracted_audio_2.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"E:\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "F:\cds\Extracted_audio_2.ac3" -output "F:\CDS\Encoded_audio_2.mp2" -logfile "F:\CDS\Encoded_audio_2.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ota( -d -80 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )
Audio conversion of F:\cds\Extracted_audio_2.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 29.08.02 05:52:19
- Free on drive F: 7341.37 mb
- Converting Pictures
--------------------------------------------------------
Converting: E:\DVD2SVCD\DefaultTitlepicture.bmp
Converting: E:\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
--------------------------------------------------------
- 29.08.02 05:52:27
- Free on drive F: 7340.38 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
--------------------------------------------------------

Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 2493445164
AudioSectors: 342181112
VideoPAPO: 33324228
ScanOffsetBytes: 210739
SeqAligningBytes: 13393647
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 1200.00
PureMPEGStream: 2104335425.87
Seconds: 7033.64
CalcMPEGStream: 2104335425.87
Frames: 175616
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 175616
Anti Noise Filter: 5
Passes: 3
Image Quality: 21
VAF file creation: Off
Video Encoding Mode: CBR
Avg. Bitrate: 2370
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("E:\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2DEC\MPEG2DEC.DLL")
mpeg2source("F:\CDS\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
BicubicResize(480,432,0.2,0.75)
TemporalSmoother(2,1)
Sharpen(0.5)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

--------------------------------------------------------
- 29.08.02 10:08:19
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3
--------------------------------------------------------
Initializing
Initializing finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 29.08.02 10:08:25
- Free on drive F: 7340.22 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: Video encoding
--------------------------------------------------------
- 29.08.02 10:08:28
- Free on drive F: 7340.20 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
--------------------------------------------------------

Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 2493445164
AudioSectors: 342181112
VideoPAPO: 33324228
ScanOffsetBytes: 210739
SeqAligningBytes: 13393647
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 1200.00
PureMPEGStream: 2104335425.87
Seconds: 7033.64
CalcMPEGStream: 2104335425.87
Frames: 175616
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 175616
Anti Noise Filter: 5
Passes: 3
Image Quality: 21
VAF file creation: Off
Video Encoding Mode: CBR
Avg. Bitrate: 2370
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("E:\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2DEC\MPEG2DEC.DLL")
mpeg2source("F:\CDS\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
BicubicResize(480,432,0.2,0.75)
TemporalSmoother(2,1)
Sharpen(0.5)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

[DrFresh]

I'm no expert - but usually when this happens (I some times get 4.0+, also on an Athlon 1800+) it's avisynth that has experienced a problem. Try viewing the mpv file that CCE has produced. It will probably at some point be black with some red text. The red text is the error message from avisynth. Sometimes it can help you debugging.

Dr. Fresh

[hitch]

@pickaxxe.

I'm even less of an expert than others, but you might try a short test with the goal of isolating the problem to a specific s/w:

Encode several chapters using same CCE settings (CCR, 2350 bitrate) as you did and then using VBR (3 pass w/ 300 min, 2000 avg, 2300 max avg). Compare the encode times and post results if there is a significant difference.

Good luck

[Pickaxxe]

Thanks for your replies, guys. Unfortunately, things are looking even grimier than I first thought. My entire system has slowed down tremendously, from one day to another. I really have no idea what exactly caused this (maybe that "missing aspienum.vxd"-error halting the system during Win98 boot process?) but I suspect those problems to also be responsible for the problems with CCE/SVCD. I mean, check this:

Ripping speed (old= yesterday/new=today):

~10800/~8000

Entire process pre-encoding(ripping ifo, extracting subtitles and 2 audio streams, converting audio): ~ 1 hour. Now 1 hour 20 has passed and
BeSweet just started the second audio stream, which will take another 25 minutes => 1 h 45 minutes... I'm starting to get angry here. :angry: And no, the OS-install is brandnew, 1 1/2 weeks old... format c:, I guess.

[Pickaxxe]

Well, I just had the "speeding problem" again, with a different movie. And I found out that it was the "sharpen" option that caused the error. What's this with avisynth thing I read about so much?

[hoozdapimp]

i think i remember reading somewhere that sharpen crashed some people's encodings of shrek, and when they turned off sharpen, it didn't crash...maybe something about a lot of dark parts and the video bitrate being too low..i dunno

anyways, try turning off sharpen. and if you want to read more about avisynth check out a great review on framesersving over at www.lukesvideo.com
or avisynth.org

[Jason28]

If you do a searcg in the whole doom9 forum you will find mention of another sharpen filter called unfilter. You can try that new one and see if it works for you. To use it you would have to edit the .avs file though.