Preserving Multiple Color Subtitles

[daxab]

(@Doom9 -- this is probably something you can answer --)

Some titles have multiple color subtitles -- yellow for lyrics, white for dialog, blue for signage. With the existing method from the guide, all output subtitles become the same color.

Is there a way to preserve the original multicolor subtitles when recreating subtitles in Scenarist?

P.S. I thought about putting this in the Subtitle forum, or the DVD Authoring forum, but then decided the people most likely to know about this would be in this forum. It's really a subtitle ripping/recreating in Scenarist question, which is what people in this forum do.

[Mancubas]

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30190&highlight=ifoupdate

Try the above, uses IFOUpdate prog, you use this program to bring over the original settings from the original IFO file, worked for me when the colours of subititles went wrong.

Good Luck!

[daxab]

Thanks. I use IfoUpdate all the time. What I'm looking for, though, is a way to preserve subtitle colors when multiple colors are used -- as for example: [Stop] <Green
What's this? <WhiteSome DVDs have this. I believe this level of color info normally gets lost when you go from SubRip -> Scenarist -> VOB.

[Mancubas]

Hi

I was hoping that that the above mentioned method may help, because it brings over the IFO information from the original VTS file to our new one, I personally do not lower bitrates etc because I own a DVD writer.

I think we have reached my knowledge limit withyour problem, sorry, maybe someone else can help here.

[oddyseus]

No u r wrong. The original colors of subs dont get lost when you subrip, they r all there. What is confusing is the change of color pallete that occurs when scenarist applies the correspondance from the 4 main colors to the active pallette.

If u edit the sst file you can see the statement
'Colors (0 0 1 2)'
or whatever it puts there. What this means is that for Main Color 1 Pallete Color 0 (1st) will be used. The same applies to Main COlor 2.
For Main 3, Pallete's 1 (2nd) and for Main 4 Pallete's 2 (3d) color.

What I am saying that u should work out the 4 colors that u need and correspond them to the statement above.

If u need more than 4 colors u can allways insert additional Color statements in the script file.

Hope this helps

[Mancubas]

Hi

Have a look at this little snipt taken from IFOEdit Q&A's.

5# Q: "Green and fuzzy subtitles after creating new IFO files".

In that case the color values in the PGC in table VTS_PGCITI are set to zero.

But they should look like this:
[000000a5] Color 0 Y Cr CB 40 109 240 [28 6d f0 ]
[000000a9] Color 1 Y Cr CB 81 240 90 [51 f0 5a ]
[000000ad] Color 2 Y Cr CB 16 128 128 [10 80 80 ]
[000000b1] Color 3 Y Cr CB 234 128 128 [ea 80 80 ]
[000000b5] Color 4 Y Cr CB 58 143 149 [3a 8f 95 ]
[000000b9] Color 5 Y Cr CB 72 116 169 [48 74 a9 ]
[000000bd] Color 6 Y Cr CB 210 146 16 [d2 92 10 ]
[000000c1] Color 7 Y Cr CB 91 73 146 [5b 49 92 ]
[000000c5] Color 8 Y Cr CB 95 156 168 [5f 9c a8 ]
[000000c9] Color 9 Y Cr CB 209 128 128 [d1 80 80 ]
[000000cd] Color 10 Y Cr CB 48 182 109 [30 b6 6d ]
[000000d1] Color 11 Y Cr CB 79 81 91 [4f 51 5b ]
[000000d5] Color 12 Y Cr CB 28 119 182 [1c 77 b6 ]
[000000d9] Color 13 Y Cr CB 97 207 207 [61 cf cf ]
[000000dd] Color 14 Y Cr CB 136 179 58 [88 b3 3a ]
[000000e1] Color 15 Y Cr CB 217 128 127 [d9 80 7f ]

But there are no default values existing, that match with each DVD.
So to get the right colors for your sub-titles you need to copy the corect values of the original IFO file, to your new IfoEdit'ed IFO file.

May help if you thing IFOEdit is the problem.