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govindayu
10th August 2002, 03:03
...Sound is always to quiet. I know I use Dynamic compression and all that stuff but nothing helps. I get best results with DVD2AVI's decoding engine and then i use DeDynamic to "pump up the volume". And it works every time and the sound is just the way it shoud be. Loud and crisp. I suggest you try it. Beleve me you will see what you've been missing.

Example : dedynamic -a 3 xxx.wav (xxx.wav is name of your WAV file)

And it's a dynamic compressor at the same time.

I wrote this because I found a lot of movies on the Internet encoded by some people and I found that in every one of them (movies) sound have to be pushed to the end if you want to hear anything. BeeSweet is a wrong choice for decoding AC3. Well maybe not for decoding it to wav, but shurely bad for decoding and encoding at the same tame. I'm sure it does the job fine but when it comes to amplification of audio, it does nothing at all !!! I'm doing DivX'es for about 3 years now and I've always wanted to have good loud sound beside excelent picture. And I'm talking about Stereo systems, without 5.1 stuff. What good picture mean in a DivX movie if you have to turn down volume every time when something explode (in the movie).And when somebody talk you can't hear unless you "pump up the volume".And over and over again.

Thanks for reading this post, and sorry about my bad English.

Fox Mulder
10th August 2002, 10:02
I guess your audio equipment can't cope with a wide dynamic range.
And there is nothing wrong with the decoders, you just have to learn how to use them properly. I don't always like a very limited dynamic range, it kills emotion.;) Leave that kind of sound to VHS; the sound in DVDs is different, multichannel and very dynamic.
And there is always a realtime dynamic compressor directshow filter that may come to rescue. Loudness has nothing to do with quality.

govindayu
10th August 2002, 16:20
DVDs are multichannel but I dont have proper equipment for that kind of sound, and therefore I have to do what I think is a best solution for a Stereo system. I don't beleve that everyone here have 5.1 surround systems in their houses. They have just old plain Stereo. My speakers have 100W (RMS), and I dont think it's crapy peace of equipment. I just made a suggestion for normalizing the sound, thats all. And DivX'es are stereo too, in most cases.

DSPguru
10th August 2002, 16:34
Originally posted by govindayu
BeeSweet is a wrong choice for decoding AC3. Well maybe not for decoding it to wav, but shurely bad for decoding and encoding at the same tame. I'm sure it does the job fine but when it comes to amplification of audio, it does nothing at all !!!hilarious :D

DSPguru
10th August 2002, 16:38
BeSweet has 7 dynamic range compression engines - 3 of them are parametric.
BeSweet has 3 gain assertion engines - all of them are parametric.
BeSweet has a built-in Equalizer with 18 predefined bands, plus a parametric equalizing engine plus preamplifier. (which means the total count of gain engines is 4)

now..
if you're interested in submitting a bug-report, you should follow the rules (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15738) :).
let's start with publishing your logfile.. :logfile:

govindayu
11th August 2002, 01:32
I know what BeeSweet have but I know when the sound is loud and when it's quiat. I tried all that stuff (with BeeSweet GUI) and sound is still quiet. I've tried all dinamic compessions BeeSweet have and amplification (pre-gain and post-gain) but none of them comes close to DeDynamic (both DirectShow filter & command line).

Sorry, but that's just my opinion :)

DSPguru
11th August 2002, 01:34
Originally posted by govindayu
Sorry, but that's just my opinion :) no problem.

i also hope you don't have a problem with me, ignoring your comments, until you post some logfiles :).