permanent subs with vobsub/gnot no work!! I've followed the guides, please help

[Nowaru]

I'm trying to encode Iron Monkey with the subtitles encoded into the movie but it's not working at all.

I've ripped the subtitles okay (confirmed by being able to open them in SubResync) but for the life of me I cannot get them encoded into the movie properly. When I go with just the default options, one black color selected and the transparency subtitle set all the way to the right, the movie encodes with no subs. When I turn on custom colors though and I select a differt one say yellow then whenever the sub is meant to showm instead the screen is covered in some kind of gray overlay with the only transparent part being the subtitles! it looks like a stencil cutout.

When I do it with the slider on the opposite end i.e. movie, no matter what I do I get no subs, custom colors or not. Yes I have selected the right language, theres two English languages and I've tried both (I'm going with the second, it does not have subs for the sound effects as well). I've looked through the guides and the only part which doesnt work for me is RAR-ing the subs, I've done that but I cant select the RAR file to use it. It will only accept .sub, .idx, .ifo etc.

I'm going with this from memory so I might have forgotten to mention a step (thanks to the 5 day posting limit I couldnt post the day I got too frustrated), but I know I followed the guides to the last letter, multiple times. Please help!

[DJ Bobo]

There isn't too much to say about it, you choosed the wrong custom colors. Make 3 black ones & 1 white one, and tick only one black one. Experiment a bit till you know which case represents the subtitles themselves (so that they become white) and which case represents the screen (this one has to be ticked, all other ones shouldn't be ticked!)

[Nowaru]

That wasn't in the guide! argh. How do I preview this? I've tried the preview option in save and encode and also looked at the original screen (the one where you set credits start before save and encode) and it doesnt work. I only get 4 colors, 2 blacks and 2 yellows.

[DJ Bobo]

open the avs file in VirtualDub again & again after every change to see what's the effect, until you're satisfied.

And you've got many many many colors, when you click on the square you can choose.

[Nowaru]

Its not working I'm not using pure nandub, just gordian knot, okay I select the colors but I still cant preview then when I open the avs file in gordian knot. I tried reopening the avs file after selecting the subs and still it doesnt work.

So what you're saying is go the pure nandub route? I havent learned how to use nandub :( I also renamed the avs file to the same name as the subs in case it didnt know what sub file to use and yes I seleteed them in "select vobsub files', checked the box etc. The subs are in a different folder too would that affect anything?