Picture Jumps

[svcdplayer]

I love DVD2SVCD using CCE Encoder. There is one annoying problem that I have noticed is that when a scene moves horizonitally or vertically the pictures seems to jump. It is annoying and spoils the good work. Here is my log file:

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- 31/07/2002 11:11:37 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 31/07/2002 11:11:42 PM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[E:\Temp\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[E:\MAD01\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob,E:\MAD01\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob,E:\MAD01\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob,E:\MAD01\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 31/07/2002 11:15:25 PM
- Free on drive E: 54043.19 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found PCM stream id: 0xA0
Filename: E:\Temp\Extracted_audio_1.wav
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 31/07/2002 11:22:25 PM
- Free on drive E: 53357.09 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: E:\Temp\Extracted_audio_1.wav
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "E:\Temp\Extracted_audio_1.wav" -output "E:\Temp\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "E:\Temp\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -ota( -g max ) -2lame( -e -b 224 -m s )
Audio conversion of E:\Temp\Extracted_audio_1.wav finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 31/07/2002 11:30:37 PM
- Free on drive E: 53256.97 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 1670574864
AudioSectors: 106474060
VideoPAPO: 24228756
ScanOffsetBytes: 112406
SeqAligningBytes: 7144051
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 1.00
PureMPEGStream: 1532615586.40
Seconds: 3751.88
CalcMPEGStream: 1532615586.40
Frames: 93672
CDSize: 1600.00
Cut point 1595.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 93672
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 2400
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 2400
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\INVERS~1\DONALD~1\decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("E:\Temp\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide()
SimpleResize(480,576)
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 0.420
Video Encoding finished.

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- 1/08/2002 12:00:47 PM
- Free on drive E: 52157.78 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 1/08/2002 12:00:50 PM
- Free on drive E: 52157.78 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 1/08/2002 12:00:53 PM
- Free on drive E: 52157.78 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 1595 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "E:\Temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 1/08/2002 12:07:02 PM
- Free on drive E: 50953.31 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: E:\Temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3744.576 seconds E:\Temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 1/08/2002 12:08:27 PM
- Free on drive E: 50953.28 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 13

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="E:\Temp\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="E:\Temp\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "E:\Temp\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
VCDXBuild failed to create a bin/cue file!

[mkanar]

My best guess is that the field order is wrong. I know that DVD2SVCD has an autodetect option, although I don't know how it works or if it works.

If you have a copy of TMPGEnc, then perhaps you could use it to open the AviSynth_Script_file.avs created by DVD2SVCD and then use the procedure outlined at http://www.doom9.org/mpg/tmpg_procedures.htm#fieldorder to determine the correct field order.

I was recently frustrated after frameserving a video from VirtualDub to TMPGEnc because neither field order would work....I think it has something to do with VirtualDub opening the .AVI with the wrong field order to begin with, so I had to open the .AVI in VirtualDub with the field order swapped. It amazes me how much time I can waste dealing with the field order, which is why I hope that DVD2SVCD matures to better handle AVI2SVCD in the future.

thanks

[svcdplayer]

Thanks for that mkanar, TMPGEnc gives Top Field First (Field A). I did try encoding with it first, the picture quality was not good but no jerk/jump.

I will test the settings on DVD2SVCD with new settings (By changing the default settings on the encoder tab)

[svcdplayer]

mkanar, it did not work. Same problem with a further problem of audio out of synch.

I am loosing patience with this!

[dvd2svcd]

Try using SeparatFields/SelectEvery when deinterlacing. And, only use a deinterlacer if it is needed (you can check this in the preview)

[chainsaw135]

all problem posts go in the dvd2svcdbasic section. concider this a warning.

[svcdplayer]

Yeah I figured out the problem is with deinterlacing. Without deinterlacing the problem is not there however the quality suffers a great deal. Without deinterlacing it is not even in comparison with TMPGEnc.

I will give SeparatFields/SelectEvery a try see if that solves the problem.

Thanks.