Moonlight Odio Dekoda vs Intervideo

[dchirca]

Hi!

I'm using a DVD-ROM to watch DVDs and a Genius Home Theater 5.1 for the AC3 sound...

So far, I have found only 2 filters that do the 5.1 decoding for 6 speakers:
- Moonlight Odio Dekoda (mlcom.ax)
- Intervideo (audiofilters.zip or audiofilters.rar)

With both of them I have encountered some problems, like:

- Odio Dekoda sometimes increases the frame rate of the DivX movies
(varies between 30% to 80%)

- Intervideo does not always detect properly the 6 speakers configuration

- There are differences between them related to the sound they send to
the speakers (I have notices this especially on the rear speakers volume)


Have you also encountered problems with these filters?
Which one do you recommand more?
Is there any other solution available?

Thank you!

Dan.

[FactorM]

I'm using the moonloght decoder for a while now and it solved the problems i had with the intervideo decoder. And i don't have the problem you mentioned.

Did you only registered the mlcom.ax, or also the mpeg2dmx.ax from the MPEG2 Decoder beta package?
I also unergistered every intervideo filters before installing the odio decoder.

Perhaps TheReal has some more suggestions for you, he's also using it without any problems i think.

[Wilbert]

@dchirca,

I have similar problems as you have. My DivX is also accelerated (whatever filter I use) when using the digital out of my soundcard. I guess that is what your are using too, or are you using the analog outputs of your soundcard?

[dchirca]

I have tried digital via i810 integrated CMI 4 ch. and analog via genius SoundMaker 5.1 ch.

It may be a bug in the Moonlight filter...But I don't think so
because it appears mainly in the DivX movies encoded by me!...
(Divx 5.02/MP3 Stereo 22.500 Mhz/Source: TV RIP)

...other ones (...95%) seems to work just fine (I can't really tell, because if they are also accelerated with 1%, for example, it's hard to notice...)

It appears even if I choose 2 channel decoding, instead of surround...
(It is true that it is only a stereo source, but I like to have surround... at least 4 ch.)

On the other, I would really like to know if anyone else have noticed
some differences between these 2 audio decoders (quality/CPU load/etc.)...

Thank you!

Dan.

[theReal]

For me, the moonlight odio decoda works without any problems, with all possible channel configurations for all files. CPU load doesn't seem to be any higher or lower than with any other decoder.

The odio decoda is the only decoder that is working for me, with all others I only get Dolby Surround Downmix.

Have you enabled WaveOut for Directshow? It doesn't use more CPU than DirectSoundOut and solves a lot of problems (other media players like Winamp and PowerDVD use WaveOut by default, guess why :))

[ookzDVD]

Intervideo 6 channel mode not decode AC3 properly on my Audigy
with the latest WDM driver dated 26-Aug-2002. The center sound
somehow is seperated to the left and right channel.
PS. WinDVD can play the DVD with AC3 sound properly.
I think the Intervideo _hacks_ the DS filter if use outside
the WinDVD :(

Moonlight 6 channel mode decode AC3 properly even sometime in
the random time the video is played faster and then normal again.
The mlcom.ax is dated 03-June-2002.

[dchirca]

Thank you all for your comments...

It seems that are also other people around who are experiencing some problems...

It seems also that these problems are mainly related to the quality of the DirectX filters...

Anyway, nobody seems to know a third solution, different from Intervideo and Moonlight...

It is somehow sad that we are tied to use one of these two codecs...

And I'm thinking of the many solutions we have for:\
- encoding/decoding video
- encoding/decoding MP3 sound
- enhancing the quality of the output (TFM, etc.)

...not mentioning the availability of the source code...