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ScarMouth
23rd July 2002, 21:08
This is my first post and because I believe I have so many questions, I dropped them all here even though I KNOW that each of them should be asked in their respective forum.

I am also aware that my reponse success will be affected.
Once I get over my excitement, I will post more correctly:)

That said:
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My DVD player doesn't play SVCD so, I sold it...looking 4 another:)
I checked the http://www.vcdhelp.com/dvdplayers.php (http://) and although I found a bunch of players, was NOT able to find them locally.

Speaking of locally (Houston TX), I visited three DVD retailers and hardly any knew what SVCD was...

So, I'd like to spend about 250 on a nice "do everything" player.
Your help is appreciate:)
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Making SVCD is pretty neat.
I compressed an 8gig rip into 2 two set VCD (perhaps 1.6 meg).
Quality was still pretty good but...I also have a DVD burner.
I'd like to do an SVCD image and place it on the DVD.
However when using DVD2SVCD, I tried to create a 1 SCVD set to its max capacity (somewhere around 2130 meg in size) and I would then have moved to a DVD. The process seemed to be working great but since the number of sectors was geared to the ISO format, I exceeded my ISO capacity and the image failed.

I did this because using DVD2SVCD automatically handled the chapter info.
Is there a better way to compress ton 8 gig DVD onto a 4.7 gig DVD and still maintain chapter info?
Such that, is there a DVD2DVD package available?

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Speaking of DVD's, it appears that DVD's are not compressed.
So when using an MPEG2 as the content of a DVD, the expanded movie can exceed the DVD capacity.

Did I get that right?
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Whats the deal with SMARTRIPPER?
I really like its GUI and when it works, it works great (especially its STREAMING capabilities).
But when it fails, it simple asks if I wish to cancel the rip.
If I say NO, it hangs.

Whats the deal?
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Ripping with DVD2SCVD fails using vStrip.
I get the dos window attempting the UNLOCK but it errors out.
I do have an ASPI driver...Perhaps I'm not using the best one?

BTW, playing the vid using POWERDVD works well and does unlock the the DVD. Although the authentication still bombs out, I can still rip.
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Whats the real difference between a CD ana DVD.

I assume the "tracks" are more dense and that the DVD uses a more narrow laser.

Is that it? I mean, does a DVD player look for specific files once it recognizes DVD media?

Or is using a DVD simply a matter of the unit realizing the media has a bigger FAT?

What about those 850 meg CD? If you can overburn with your current unit, chance are you can use the 850 meg media too?

Does the media require your burner to use a tighter beam?

Speaking of the laser beam, can you focus a beam more narrow than its wavelength? I assume not.

Could not seem to find any info on the web..can find the media on EBAY.
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I'm using XP PRO on an AMD 1.6 proc with 512 DDR.

avih
23rd July 2002, 21:22
welcome to the forum.

this is your 2nd post with exactly the same content. this is known as cross posting (eventhough no 'cross' is involved, since both posts are in the same forum). and this is against the forum rules, which u had 5 days to read, and 'lurk' around on this forum.

since we're nice ppl, and i don't wanna strike you on your 1st post here, i'll only warn you: READ THE FORUM RULES AND DON'T BREAK THEM, PLS!

now, posting as many questions as u did will will probably not get u any decent answers. i suggest that you post these questions again, each one in it's own thread (if such thread doesn't already exist), in the best forum.

also, pls search the forum and the guides to see if you can find answers to some of your questions.

cheers
avi

ScarMouth
23rd July 2002, 21:54
Thanks for the info and the understanding.

How does one CROSS POST?

I've done a saerch on CROSS POST and came up with no hits regards placing a post more than once on a board.

Also, I looked into the FAQ again and didn't any issue regards CROSS POSTing.

I also checked my status and was told I posted only one message.

Further, I did a search on terms within my post to see if another more than one post existed and found only one message.

I am geniunly concerned that I may have already broken the rules considering how valuable this site has been to me during the past 5 days.

Please bare with me...I will get it right!

Koepi
23rd July 2002, 21:57
In case you didn't find it on top of this page, in your mailbox, in the agreement you had to "subscribe", here you go:

Doom9 forum rules (http://forum.doom9.org/forum-rules.htm)

I hope this helps to clarify.

Regards,
Koepi

ScarMouth
23rd July 2002, 22:04
Did I actually post the same message twice?

If so, how can I prevent it in the future?

avih
23rd July 2002, 22:50
ok, apperantly, about the crosspost, you've encountered a bug. i can't find the other thread that u posted, but i'm sure i saw another post by you (i even remember seeing that your post-count is 2, with only these 2 posts).

the other post didn't include this section:

This is my first post and because I believe I have so many questions, I dropped them all here even though I KNOW that each of them should be asked in their respective forum.

I am also aware that my reponse success will be affected.
Once I get over my excitement, I will post more correctly:)

That said:
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what probably happened is that you pressed 'submit', then changed your mind, pressed 'stop' or escape or whatever, corrected your post, and posted again, which caused 2 posts. (evethough u didn't see the approval for the 1st one).

sorry about the cross-post false accusation.

it does make me wonder though, where IS your other post. i can't find it, and i surely remember that it was either prev-thread-id, or next thread-id to this one, both of which are'nt the one i've seen.

has any mod deleted the other post?

sorry again, and welcome ;)
avi

TactX
23rd July 2002, 23:21
My DVD player doesn't play SVCD so, I sold it...looking 4 another:)
I checked the http://www.vcdhelp.com/dvdplayers.php and although I found a bunch of players, was NOT able to find them locally.

Speaking of locally (Houston TX), I visited three DVD retailers and hardly any knew what SVCD was...

Pick a (proper) SVCD, go to the retailer and ask if you can try it in some of their players.

Speaking of DVD's, it appears that DVD's are not compressed.
So when using an MPEG2 as the content of a DVD, the expanded movie can exceed the DVD capacity.

Did I get that right?

DVDs are MPEG-2 compressed just like SVCDs are, only DVDs use higher bitrates and resolutions. SVCDs (normally) use a resolution of 480x480, but that is NOT DVD compliant. So it will propably NOT work if you simply put your SVCD-streams on a DVD.


EDIT: Ups... almost forgot... WELCOME !!!

HomerJ
24th July 2002, 00:20
Scarmouth,

Welcome to the forum, your'e not off to the best of starts are you ?

Never mind.

You ask a lot of questions, I won't start to answer them here, best part of learning is finding out for yourself.

That said, you reported you have a DVD burner (what type ? DVD-R or DVD+R) This is very important. If |I were you, I would mess about too much with VCD / SVCD, DVD quality is much better.

I also noted your PC spec. It seems "respectable" enough. By that I mean powerful enough to handle video. Movies are in the "gigabyte" range. Also, if you start to get into encoding MPEG, it can take 24hrs plus at times (although not with your spec)

Good luck in the future, and remeber this very simple thing.

As the right question, and you'll get the right answer.

Also, when reporting problems with software, it's always worth stating the version number.

HomerJ :D

ScarMouth
24th July 2002, 00:38
Thanks for replying.

I did go to 3 retailers (even tried TWEETER - which used to be Home Entertainment in my area - was pretty high tech) and none of them knew anything about SVCD.

2 of the sources I tried had lousy demo support.
1 DID have a rack of players and monitors but the rep didn't know what did what...worse, the units that DID play the disc were not labeled as such and the rep couldn't find the papaerwork.

All in all, it was a crap experiance.
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Your response regards DVD's playing SCVD streams is sort of what I was looking for.

It seems you suggest that players make a distinction on the media rather than the files contained upon it.

That seems counter intuitive - ya know?

GregS
24th July 2002, 02:12
Houston must have a Walmart . Go there and buy an APEX for
your svcd's . @ $69. Can't go wrong . I have an expensive
Toshiba and it hasn't been used for months ( I'm waiting for
the cheap APEX to break , but it hasn't yet ). A lot of the
people here recomend them highly . It plays everything I throw
at it .

I'd buy a dvdr , but with the quality I get using DVD2SVCD,
CCE as the encoder and less than a buck for 2-3 cdr's , why
spend $6-12 ea. for dvdr's , not to mention the $400 for the
drive .

Try using DVD2SVCD to make really good svcd's by reading the guides ,searching the forums and tweaking the settings .Cdr's
are a much cheaper way to learn .

That's just my 2 cents worth . Good luck !

western shinma
24th July 2002, 02:59
Originally posted by GregS

I'd buy a dvdr , but with the quality I get using DVD2SVCD, CCE as the encoder and less than a buck for 2-3 cdr's, why spend $6-12 ea. for dvdr's, not to mention the $400 for the drive.


Sorry, but DVD-R drives and discs are nowhere near that expensive.

ScarMouth
24th July 2002, 05:07
Originally posted by GregS
Houston must have a Walmart . Go there and buy an APEX for
your svcd's . @ $69. Can't go wrong .
I've been an audio buff for a while now. I even have a Nakamichi Tape Deck (lotta good that does me:)

It hard to imagine good quality from 69 bucks. Also, I read that APEX players (not sure which) are not capable of playing copied DVD's. Must confirm...

But as I said earlier, I DO have a DVD burner but am a bit leary of scaling an 8 gig DVD to 4 something gig. In particular, I don't want to deal with chaptering.

I have successfully ripped a 6 gig DVD into a 3.6 DVD gig by stripping the VOB's I didn't want. Then used IFOEDIT to reset my pointers.No encoding, converting...Worked great.

Try using DVD2SVCD to make really good svcd's
Thanks for the tip but actually, I DO use it and dropped an 8 gig DVD to 2 SCVD. Quality was noticable depreciated but considering the compression, it really wasn't so bad..

Soon as I get over the DVD hump, I suppose I won't go back to SVCD...

A while back, I considered simply building a PC for my entertainment center...and with all of the competing formats and differently players deal with the media, i'm once again leaning that way.

I understand that some DVD players can do MPG right off the disc...why not ASF, MOV, RM, and how about AVI? And VCS, SCVD, SVCD, XSVCD, blah, blah, blah?

I can't imagine a more flexible player than a PC especially considering I can network it to my office PC and make available 9k worth of MP3's. And of course, gaming:)

Ookami
24th July 2002, 19:30
> has any mod deleted the other post?

Yes. I have.

ScarMouth
25th July 2002, 04:53
Will do my best to be more careful.