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destarded
7th July 2002, 00:25
Hello there! I'm writing this message since I am one of many who experience crashes in CCE, I thought my prob was solved, but no way José. So I'm thinking about using TMPGEnc instead, the only problem is, that I get a whole lot more blocks in TMPGEnc.
Compare the picutres below:
http://home.no.net/orcabyss/cce.png
http://home.no.net/orcabyss/tmpgenc.png

(I recommed that you view at their full res!)
(also, it's not "OMG FULL OF BLOCKS!", but it's noticeable)

My settings in CCE:
CBR: 2496 kbps
Image Quality Priority: 20
Anti Noise Filter: 12
Progressive Frames: CHECKED
Linear quantizer Scale: CHECKED
Zigzag scanning order: CHECKED
Intra DC precision: 10

My settings in TMPGEnc:
CBR 2496 kbps
Motion search precision: High quality
DC component precision: 10
Encode mode: Non-interlace
GOP Structure: 1-5-3-1 (top to bottom)
Detect scene change: CHECKED
Use floating point DCT: CHECKED
Quantize matrix: MPEG Standard (Default produces same effect)
Soften blocknoise: 35/35

Anybody who could help me out or got any hints?

rubic42
7th July 2002, 08:56
Turn off soften block noise, and you won't get so many obvious looking blocks in the video. Or perhaps play with lowering those settings.

TactX
7th July 2002, 21:36
I'd use the standard GOP 1-5-2.

I've once been playing around with more/less b-frames, but I always had the best results using the standard GOP for standard SVCD-bitrates (<2500).

WarpEnterprises
8th July 2002, 11:47
You used a quite strong Anti Noise Filter: 12 soften filter in cce. TMPGenc doesn't pre-filter, so you have to use "noise reduction", which is quite slow or some external filter (avisynth,...)Without that TMPGenc produces sharper images but makes blocks in high-motion scenes (and water is very high motion)