Bad seeking in XCD

[Beave]

I'm finally trying the XCD out. It all worked out fine, until I wanted to jump to another place in the movie. The Player just stops or hangs or takes up to 1 minute to seek (Zoom Player, WMP 6.4, Powerdivx...). The OGM File plays well by itself. I tried to burn it on a Rewritable and use Deamon Tools.
Is this normal? Or does my system have a problem?

I have WinXP
I downloaded the Mode2CD and DS Filter today.

[avih]

this is not a known problem.

1. did u have seeking problems with daemon as well?
2. can u load the clip in graphedit (both original clip and the mode2 clip from daemon/cd) and let us know what filters are used?

thx
avi

[Beave]

OK

1. Yes, it was the same

2. Screenshots of the files in Graphedit are attached

Thanks for your help

[avih]

ok. it's really strange. since the dat filter chain seems exactly as it should.

i can think of 2 things to try (although i'm not sure they're the cause)

1. uninstall (or disable) ffdshow for that codec. let us know if it had any effect.

2. it does not seems to be cd related, since it happens with daemon as well, which is very strange. maybe u use a slow pc? not enough ram? can u pls give us more details of your hardware? (i'm running out of options here... :( ).
maybe you can try to try with different image, you can try mp3 and AVI files. (using daemon is enough since u had the problem also with daemon). again, let us know of the results. if it's working with mp3 and avi, maybe you have an older version of the ogg splitter? hard to tell...

avi

[Beave]

1. Disabling FFD and using DIvX decoder had no effect.

2. I'm using latest 0.9.9.1 OggDS. I tried with an avi file and mp3 sound track and it worked great like it should. I didn't know we can use avi with it. I thought it must be something like OGM, since it has an included error handling. So is this old news?
When I play the OGM DAT the "max time" looks weird too. I included the Screenshot off Zoom Player, but it is the same with the other players as well.

So is it as save to use avi as it is with ogm? What do you think, will future DS Filter support these DATs or at least co exist with the current filter?

I wonder where this problem lies. OGMs play fine by itself, only when they are included in the DAT it has problems. I tried unregistering OggDS.dll and registering again, no effect. Any thoughts?

My machine:
Athlon 1,4
ECS K7S5A
512 MB RAM
pioneer 106s
LTN 241040
WinXP

[avih]

1.
you can put ANY multimedia file using the mode2cdmaker tool and play it with the filter. however, formats that don't have error handling (such as avi files) have more chances to crash/stop playback is you have errors (scratches) on the cd while formats that DO support some kind of error handling (such as ogg, mp3, mcf etc) will continue the playback (but MIGHT show artefacts).

2. regarding your problem. it seems one of 2 things:
a: the file ogg->DAT process had some errors or the resulting DAT file had some errors. or
b: the filter doesn't strip your DAT file properly for some reason.

it's more probable that the 2nd option is the one that happened, which might point to a new bug.

so far there have no reports that ogg doesn't play well after beeing converted to DAT. and your's is the 1st one.

1. copy the DAT file from the cd/daemon to the hd and try to play it from there. if the reason is a bug in the filter then it shouldn't play either.

2. try to convert another ogg (/ogm) file to dat and see if the new dat file plays correctly. if it does then maybe you found some rare combination of data in that specific ogg file that invokes the bug in the filter.

3. a. run debugview before b. open the corrupted dat file with (i.e.) zoom player. c. let it play for about 10 seconds. d.press stop. e. copy the entire output from debugview and post it to this thread. i'll try to analyze it to see if i can find the bug.

cheers
avi

[Beave]

Thx so far.

Well I made another OGM and this one works. The first one seemed to be crappy. I'm happy.

If you still want this debug thing tell me. But you have to tell me first how to do that debugview.

I made an 805 mb ogm and the resulted DAT is 815 mb. Quite some overhead.
Should the OGM file or the DAT be max 800mb? Haven't found anything about that in the forum. Well I'll try it myself.

Maybe you should write some FAQ about XCD. The one in new a/v is quite old and concernes OGMs mostly.

Seems to work now, I'm thinking of starting to archive my movies as OGM/XCD. The only thing I have to resolve now is that the OGM/Vorbis is much quiter than Avi/MP3.