Cropping with Premiere out to CCE 2.62... Help

[buzzcut]

Okay for matters not important I have a VHS concert on miniDV. I transfered the DV to my computer. I edited the show using premiere 6.01. Now I want to crop the bottom 30% out and resize to 720X480 and process as 16X9 to DVD-R Or I just want to crop and mask to give a letter box look on 4:3. I'm connecting premiere to CCE 2.62 with a video server "aviwrapper". The problem is that if I crop with premiere it screws op the fields. After I burn the show to DVD-R it looks there is a field order problem. Changing top or bottom field on premiere doesn't work. Also this isn't a problem with the CCE top field order bug, it's a premiere problem. So does anyone know how to crop with premiere without screwing up the fields? I have used TMPGE and it does what I want it to do but it's too sloooow.

I wouldn't mind if I could just crop and mask with premiere to keep it at 4:3 to give a psuedo letter box look. The whole reason why I'm cropping is to get rid of a clock giving run time at the bottom of the screen.

[Deepa DvD]

I don't know if this may help.When I cropped my video, this what I did: (RGB Mode)
Made a new image (i think) 720X200
Dropped paint bucket-using black
saved as .psd file
opened it with premiere and overlapped it.
(I don't remember if I overlapped the final with Premiere or After
Effects, but you can do it with Premiere)
Hope this helps!:)

[buzzcut]

hmmm, I would try that but I already have so many overlays. The problem is that when you crop with Premiere it screws up the interlacing. I would just deinterlace but this is for DVD-R so I need to keep the interlacing intact. On a second viewing it's clear that the fields are separating at high motion. It looks like a field order problem but slightly different. So is there a way to crop with premiere without scrwing up the interlacing...HELP

[ulfschack]

There are also the possibility of going over avisynth from Premiere. Allthough I hear there are problems with avisynth and CCE2.62 surely there's a workaround or you could try 2.50, link2, vfapi or something. Anyhow, from avisynth there's no end to the possibilities. For resizing and cropping interlaced video just remember to seperate the fields before you do stuff to them.

Example:

IPCSource("Clip0")
ConvertToYUY2
Assusmeframebased
separatefields #Now the frame is half heigth (double fps)
Crop(0,0,720,240-72).BicubuicResize(720,240).weave
#CompementParity #remove "#" for changing field order.


... leaving you with a 720x480 where the original bottom 144 (30%) "lines" were cropped and resized to full maintaining proper interlacing.

cheers

[ulfschack]

forgot to post a link for the frameserver.

http://www.vcdhelp.com/premiereavisynth.htm

[buzzcut]

This is what I was looking for. I'm now using CCE 2.64 if that helps. So doI just write those commands in the notepad and save as a .avs? I kept hearing about the tools in avisynth but I was looking for them in the settings tab. Is there a gui for avisynth to make it simplier to use?

[ulfschack]

sorry buzzcut, you actually have to write something :) Notepad's good. Tutorials are all around. You seem to have a right understanding of what to do.

Has been a while since I used CCE, but I do believe 2.64 has overcome some of the (intentional?) incompatability issues towards avisynth.

cheers

[buzzcut]

:) yeah I figured it out. The quality wasn't great with avisynth cropping. I can get better quality with TMPGEnc when cropping. CCE 2.64 has the best quality uncropped, what a shame. Thanks for your help. your the best :)