Give up. Just want movie and chapters (IfoEdit & CCE)

[KeithXP]

HELP!

I can successfully get a CCE encoded steam at an appropriate size and quality. What I can't seem to do is put this back in IfoEdit. So, I give up. How can I strip everything except one track and the chapter scenes so that I can navigate?

These are my unsuccessful steps so far:

1. Strip with Smart Ripper (all files)
2. IfoEdit out everything except movie and menus
3. DVD2AVI to get .d2v and .ac3
4. AVISynth it.
5. CCE 2.50 SP it (2 passes - 1st pass with the chapters manually entered from ChapterXtractor dtat)
6. Pulldown
7. Use SpruceUp to turn back into .vob's
8. Put the new .vob's in the place of the originals except the _0.vob
9. Manually update .ifo OR IfoUpdate the .ifo
10. Get VTS
11. Movie plays, no menu!!!

I know some part of this MUST be wrong. I've tried with no success on Ocean's Eleven and Boys and Girls DVDs.

Help!
KeithXP

[HomerJ]

KeithXP,

I'm fairly new to this game, but I think Ifoedit will only handle files that have been transcoded using ReMpeg.

It will not handle files created by CCE.

HomerJ

[mmorris]

If you're using SpruceUp it should have the menus you created. That is unless you exported it to VOB's and then pulled in the original menus and overwrote the SU ones. I use SpruceUp but use the menus I create.

[mmorris]

Oops, see your step 8 says you don't use the _0's from SpruceUp so that shouldn't be the problem. It's possible it has something to do with the menu pointers in the IFO files.

[jdobbs]

It looks like you are doing everything the same way I do, except I don't remove any extras (your Step 2). Just as an experiment, try doing exactly what you are doing, but don't edit out anything with IFOEdit before you do the reencode. Then put it back together as you have, run IFOUpdate and "Get VTS Sectors" and try it.

Another thing to check is whether there are multiple PGCs in the original movie. Normally you can't use SpruceUp for multiple PGC movies (it DOES work often if you don't care about some of the PGCs).

jdobbs

[KeithXP]

Thanks jdobbs and mmorris,

JDOBBS- I have your step-by-step using Spruce printed out and I do it step for step. You are absolutely right. It is the multiple PGCs that must be causing the problems. I went a long way and got a little success.

1. I used SmartRipper to rip only the movie and dolby sound track to 2 files.
2. Used Spruce Up to make a title set
3. Then did everything above to get a smaller title set with CCE
4. Put it back with original .ifo and I got menus to work - no extras, but I'm working on that.

Question: Is there a simpler way to rip all of the other PGCs and keep the one PGC? OR Is there a simple way to use DVDMaestro to take a movie out of title set, CCE it and put it back without authoring it?

Thanks again,
KeithXP

[jdobbs]

There are a few ways to do it. I usually pull the individual PGCs from the DVD with Smartripper, run DVD2AVI/AVISYNTH/CCE against all of them, run pulldown, drag drop them individually into ReelDVD , and create a title set. You will have the same PGC setup as an output.

You may also (I haven't tried it) be able to reencode the entire titleset, then use Maestro's playlist function to break the single stream into PGCs, and then burn.

If you only have SpruceUp to work with, I have done this and made it work with low PGC counts: Encode the individual PGCs separately, and add to SpruceUp using a menu. They will all be in separate title sets. Rename the titlesets so they all appear as one but increment the last digit... The only problem is that the individual VOBs will all be #1 and that may cause problems when the player tries to jump to a specific VOB.

[KeithXP]

Thanks again jdobbs,

I have ReelDVD. I just don't know how to use it. I can't even import anything. Actually, I don't really know what PGC's are. I will read up on that also. What I think they are now are like different "programs" within the DVD.

Thanks again,
KeithXP

[jdobbs]

All you have to do in ReelDVD is select the M2V file from the browsing window and drag-and-drop it into the timeline and it will create a filmclip icon. Then drag-and-drop the audio and subtitle files on top of it. To make multiple PGCs, put them one behind the other and connect them by stretching the "next" connector from the right side of the filmclip to the left side of the next one. Completely ignore creating any menus, etc. for the CCE/IFOEDIT method. Just create a fileset and burn it.

jdobbs

[TRILIGHT]

Originally posted by jdobbs
You may also (I haven't tried it) be able to reencode the entire titleset, then use Maestro's playlist function to break the single stream into PGCs, and then burn.

Hey Jdobbs! Just thought I'd comment on this. I spent nearly 3 days beating my head against the wall trying to make this work in Maestro. Ultimately, there is just no good way of doing this! The problem is that the AC3 file that is stripped out is just for the movie. I even tried going as far as splicing the files together to create one large audio file. Unfortunately, Maestro sees the different bitrates and then bitches about it. I've come to the conclusion that there is just no way to do this in Maestro without losing the AC3 and I'm just not willing to do that.

[dvdguy_2002]

Originally posted by TRILIGHT


I even tried going as far as splicing the files together to create one large audio file.

Hey Trilight,

Do you mean you spliced ac3 files together ?
How did you do that, can you please elobrate.

Thanks.

[TRILIGHT]

I don't think it would do you any good. Like I said, the authoring program will bitch when it sees that different parts of the file are at different bitrates. I kinda cheated to do it (I was looking at EVERY possible angle to get multiple PGC copies in Maestro). I used a merging program that appended other AC3 files to the end of the main one. Nothing more than a file merge, really.

[dvdguy_2002]

Thing is I need to split the ac3 files into pieces which
would fit with my .m2v files to create a project.

Any suggestions,

Thanks.

[TRILIGHT]

Look at some of the different splitters HERE. (http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downloads/encoding_cutjoin.html) Surely one of them will do what you need.

[dvdguy_2002]

Will check it out right away.
Thanks.