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crOOk
14th June 2002, 13:54
I just encoded a movie which had a lot of noise in it and even more important it showed a lot of interlacing artifacts. All the methods I know of, also the ones that are mentioned on the forum which are most virtualdub, avisynth (fielddeinterlace!) filters. I finally tried the following:
SeparateFields
SelectEven/SelectOdd/Decimate(2)
ResizingFilter(x,2y)
This worked best for me, it removes ALL the interlacing lines and results in a sharp picture with very smooth 25fps playback.
The heavy noise is another problem, the movie has a first pass size of 3 to 4 Gb depending on the settings and I tried to encode it with XviD, DivX3.11, MPEG2 and I even tried DivX5.01. The best method to my surprise was to use the denoising, sharpening and especially deblocking filters of TMPEG. Can I somehow simulate those filters with other avisynth filter combinations... This would be great because the movie needs to look really good on 2 AVI CDs if possible (2 SVCDs look horrible and 3 are too many). I'm talking about the NaturalBornKillers PAL DVD including the 6 outtaken scenes (142min33sec altogether). So if anyone knows those denoising tricks, please tell me, I don't. I also have to mention that the movie has a lot of scens that are supposed to look noisy because they're on a TV screen. Using TemporalSmoother on it makes the noise look worse, well, let's say different, but as I said TMPEG filters worked pretty good, so please tell me to simulate them. I'll try to post some screenshots soon.

trbarry
14th June 2002, 16:08
SeparateFields
SelectEven/SelectOdd/Decimate(2)
ResizingFilter(x,2y)


crOOk -

I can't help you with your noise filters but I am curious why folks upsize before encoding. Is it a limitation how you intend to display the final file? If you were going to be displaying it on something like Zoom Player with a scaling hardware overlay it seems the file would be much smaller if you just left out the resize step and adjusted the aspect ratio on the fly at playback. Or is this for SVCD or something that requires the proper aspect ratio?

Please excuse if this is an obvious or dumb question. ;)

- Tom

crOOk
14th June 2002, 17:22
I just encoded the movie again and this time didn't resize it before encoding at all (I actually left the resolution at 704*216 so there would be no change (decrease!) in width either). This way I can use 124% of the resolution and still reach 85% of the file size in the other try.
WEll, I still realize why there are some "folks" who don't resize their movies after encoding. These folks know that most other folks who are not into the whole video encoding thing and just enjoy watching movies don't even know that something like Zoom Player, which I use, too, exists or they don't know or want to use it (too lazy, used to vhs etc.). BUT... there are other folks like me whose card doesn't support hardware overlays (Kyro2, my cpu is still strong enough to do the resizing though).