Again 'The Others' and 'Training Day' R1

[candyman_eu]

Heya All,
don't scream yet ... I've read the threads concerning the two movies already but none of them solved my problem.
On both movies, I create a new folder with just the audio track and vob files I need. So far everything looks perfect ... angles are correct, audio is correct and so on.
However as both movies still are too big, I need to ReMpg them ... here's where the problem starts. No matter which % I choose, the result always looks washed/pixely. The same result over and over, no matter if I use 90% of original or 70%.
Anybody got a clue on this ? I also want to try the CCE method but it looks like much, much more work and time involved.
Is the quality that much better with CCE compared to the ReMpg to invest some time in it ?
Thanks

[Mnemonic]

Use CCE i re-encoded The Others, no problems! And once you get the settigns memorized you will do it VERY fast. One more thing, to save time i have done the following on the last 3 movies with PERFECT results. Use your favorite bitrate calculator to figure what you can fit onto your DVD ( i use tmpeg, its so easy with the wizard). Follow the guide for CCE accept do a multipass 1 pass on your FIRST shot, set max bitrate to 9500 and min to 0. Set your average bitrate to whatever you need for the correct file size, and presto!! in four hours on a P4 1.5 youll have a re-encoded BEAUTIFUL m2v! I found there is no need to go into advance and change all the grey areas!!! CCE will do the best it can with the bitrate you set without all the extra ROBSHOT BS! If there is a complicated part of the M2V it turns up the bitrate to your max ANYWAY and going in there and setting it higher manually DOES NOTHING! I have done more than 20 movies with CCE and now i have learned that you can do it MUCH EASIER!

[Eyes`Only]

Yes, as you can see from Menmonic's posting, as well as many others on this board, CCE is FAR SUPERIOR to ReMpeg. Once you use it once, you'll wonder why you ever waited so long to try it. You can bring a movie down to 50% or less with no visible quality reduction. Admittedly, the process is a LOT more complex that just a simple ReMpeg/Ifoedit remux, but it is so worth it. You just have to try it once to understand. You'll thank us, trust me!

[goonyah]

First of all, candyman - I doubt that you tried to search, there are a ton of posts on this exact issue concerning The Others AND Training Day. I ran into the same thing.

Secondly, anyone who has actually read some posts, knows that CCE is far superior. Rather than telling Candyman that he should switch to CCE (which he may well not have access to), you should give guidance if at all possible (Eyes and Mnem). Just my two cents, not a flame, just an opinion.

the answer lies in this thread --> http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24509&highlight=serendipity

[Mnemonic]

:D

[Eyes`Only]

Goonyah,

Did you read before you posted? If so, you may have caught this line from candyman_eu's original posting:



Is the quality that much better with CCE compared to the ReMpg to invest some time in it ?
Thanks


Now read my post. Looks like I was answering that question, doesn't it?

Now as for pushing people to use CCE rather than Rempeg, I didn't do that without him already bringing up the subject. And even so, I'm the type of fisherman that if I see someone using the wrong bait and catching very little fish, I'll gladly show them that if they use different bait they can catch much more. Either way they still get to eat, but my way he gets to eat more and better tasting fish.

(damn, now I'm hungry.. where's the nearest fish taco shop around here again?)

[candyman_eu]

Hi everybody,

thanks for the valuable input. I yesterday did indeed encode my first movie in CCE and quality is really stunning. Chapter setup is not really solved as 'nice' as I would have thought. Unfortunately as it was the first try, my encoded M2V was the exact same size as the original from the VOB's :-) Guess I'll have to have a close look at those bitrate calculators tonight. Encoding was also not too bad ...as the PC is anyway just a server without too much action on it, it can easily run overnight.
Anyway, I'll give it another shot tonight to get everything working as I want (chapters and ofcourse make a smaller size out of it).
Once that's done I guess the next fight will be authoring a new DVD but that's another story.

Cheers. :)

[candyman_eu]

Hi everybody,

thanks for the valuable input. I yesterday did indeed encode my first movie in CCE and quality is really stunning. Chapter setup is not really solved as 'nice' as I would have thought. Unfortunately as it was the first try, my encoded M2V was the exact same size as the original from the VOB's :-) Guess I'll have to have a close look at those bitrate calculators tonight. Encoding was also not too bad ...as the PC is anyway just a server without too much action on it, it can easily run overnight.
Anyway, I'll give it another shot tonight to get everything working as I want (chapters and ofcourse make a smaller size out of it).
Once that's done I guess the next fight will be authoring a new DVD but that's another story.

Cheers. :)

[candyman_eu]

Oh .. I forgot. As I need to define the chapters in my authoring program later, do I need to define them also in CCE ?

[goonyah]

@Mnem and Eyes -

My bad, I'll eat crow. I was too hung up on all the other posts that reply to someones ReMPEG question with, "What were you thinking, use CCE". You were answering his question ...

@Candyman -

Dude, these questions are answered all over the place. Have you read the forum rules? Do you know how to search? This isn't really even the appropriate place for CCE questions~!

BUT, the answer is that yes, you still need to set chapters in CCE, this creates I-Frames in the proper positions, so you can then create chapters in your authoring program at the exact points - not just nearest GOP or whatever.

There's a shortcut to import chapters into CCE in the IFOEdit thread entitled "Finally an IFOEdit/CCE working method", check it out.

[candyman_eu]

For goonyah:

I'll check the mentioned post out. I have however to admit that I've read so many approaches and solutions that it's possible that I missed one.

On another note ... instead of flaming and telling me over and over that there are a lot of others post, just reply one sentence with the answer. That's shorter ... instead of read this, read that ... but then again maybe you knew everything right the first day you got your DVDR burner and don't need anybody elses help.