Inserting a vob in the middle of another

[DemonDog]

I rip dvds by chapter so i get around 20-30 vobs. if i wanted to insert a deleted scene into the middle of a vob file, how would i go about that? i only ask because i want my dvd rips to be special :-)

And i hope this is the right forum for this question

[DemonDog]

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[atreides93]

i think you'll have to demux them into m2v files and wav files. and then edit it using adobe premiere.
though adobe's not good at editing mpeg2 video for some reason. it locks up on me sometimes.

but that's the only thing i can think of.
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[DemonDog]

I figured out a way to do it... (haven't tried it out yet though). In dvd2avi, there's a close bracket thing... let's a assume i've got files 1 & 2 and a deleted scene:

[File 1][File 2 Part 1][Deleted scene][File 2 Part 2]....

I would add file 1 and file 2, jump to the part in file 2 where the deleted scene comes in, then hit the close bracket. I'd save the project as project 1 or whatever, demux the audio as part 1, etc.

Then repeat the process for every single segment i need to add... then in virtualdub i would append the projects to each other to make a long video file with all the deleted scenes! Yippee!

All that remains now is the audio files. I use the vorbis format so i'm not sure how i would add all those files together, but i'm sure it's EASY to do. Anyway, that is the method i've devised.

[DemonDog]

*bump*
Holy, I thought it would be easy to get answers! It seems like an interesting enough topic and I just thought people would be intrigued at a chance to show off their encoding muscle... or is it the wrong forum? Or has it already been answered?...

[int 21h]

What I would do... (Standard Disclaimer applies, this is mostly just theorizing and personal experience)

Rip the dvd by vob files and split on deleted scene posistions. (i.e. if there are 6 deleted scenes you would have MOVIE - 1 - MOVIE - 2 - MOVIE - 3 - MOVIE - 4 - MOVIE, etc) Rip out the deleted scenes and name/split appropriately (rip by chapter or cell, depends on dvd and name like DeletedScene1.vob). Then simply add your VOB files manually into DVD2AVI so that you have a project with a file Dialog something like this:

X:\Path.to.vobs\MoviePart1.vob
X:\Path.to.vobs\DeletedScene1.vob
X:\Path.to.vobs\MoviePart2.vob
X:\Path.to.vobs\DeletedScene2.vob

etc. This eliminates the merging thing in VirtualDub and solves your audio problem because DVD2AVI will merge the demuxxed (or decoded) audio file into one continuous thing.

[DemonDog]

How do i determine where to split it for scenes? The delete scenes go in the middle of a chapter, and the deleted scenes go in there....

[int 21h]

If the the scenes don't go into the places where the cell splits are, then my method won't work, and you'll have to resort to some clever cutting and pasting. (In which case, it would probably be easier to use Avisynth + several DVD2AVI projects).

In fact, in the Avisynth language reference(http://math.berkeley.edu/~benrg/avisynth-reference.html#Splice), you'll notice this example:

UnalignedSplice(AVISource("capture1.avi"), AVISource("capture2.avi"), AVISource("capture3.avi"))

That's exactly what you'll do, except yours will say mpeg2source("blahblah.d2v"),etc.

If in fact you have to use this method instead of the other, I wish you much luck, (You'll need a little, but more importantly alot of patience and proper organization of files) I would definitely stay away from the virtualdub append thing, because you have no way to check your progress as you go. With Avisynth, you'll be able to put it all together and then scroll through the movie (or even watch it if you have a 1.2ghz+ machine for r/t decoding of the mpeg2) to make sure everything is correct.

One of these days when I find some time I was planning on doing this exact thing with Gladiator.

Sorry, I cannot give a more complete answer, but its hard flying blind (since I don't know the movie, etc.)

[x-1/9]

I use those in conjunction, and that alway makes it work right, they respect the program info and make seamless merges. I've actually done exactly that, replaced scenes with the alternates, and I like to put multiple "endings that could'nt fit on one dvd-r" as many as will fit, rather than waste a whole dvd-r every time that happens, if 3 endings can fit on one, why burn 3? DVD-R costs a little more than CD-R's. And the chapter info is always hooked upright, even between partials of different movies, I can skip to wichever ending I want with chapter advance, so it's not a pain to do.