CCE video is jerky

[hoops10]

I've done multiple encodes using avisynth/CCE method for making svcds. Recently, however I've been having problems with the video being jerky. I used smartripper to rip the vobs onto my HD. First I use dvd2avi (1.76) to create a project file and downmix the DD to DS. Then I create an .avs file that looks like this:

LoadPlugin("c:\winnt\system\mpeg2dec.dll")
video=mpeg2source("c:\movie\one.d2v")
audio=wavsource("c:\movie\chimes.wav")
audiodub(video,audio)
BicubicResize(480,360)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)

I used 3 pass VBR in CCE, select progressive frames in the video tab( this is ntsc video), uncheck the audio tab, put in the min, max and avg bitrates and then let it encode. Then I use bbmpeg to mux it and cut it. The final mpgs have very jerky video.

Second try, I use dvd2svcd and the final mpgs are perfect without any jerky video at all. Any ideas why? They both use dvd2avi->avisynth->cce method. Please help.

[bb]

I don't see any deinterlacing / IVTC in your script. What does the DVD2SVCD generated AVS file look like?

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[hoops10]

Here is the AviSynth_Script_File.avs:
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\movie\full\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
BicubicResize(480,360,0.00,0.75)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)
ResampleAudio(44100)

In dvd2svcd settings, I turned Force Film ON. Does that help at all?

[bb]

Don't know how reliable Force Film is. I'd use Donald Graft's Decomb filter package for AviSynth.

But what do you mean by "jerky"?
Do you see horizontal lines in moving areas (that would mean you have an interlacing problem)?
Do you have heavy flicker (which could be caused by a wrong field order, then try to disable CCE's Top Field First option)?
It could also be a pulldown problem, which will be solved by Decomb, too.

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[hoops10]

When I say jerky, I mean that the video kind of like stutters back and forth. That are no horizontal lines so I think that force film is doing it's job. An idea what would dvd2svcd would be doing to stop the video from being jerky that, when I use avisynth->cce by myself, am not doing?

[bb]

Sounds like a field order problem. Try to disable CCE's "Top Field First" option.

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[JayTray]

Yea, CCE is buggy as hell. I am learning now also that if you have Top Field First checked you will get a Jerky result if viewed on stand alone player. If you watch on a PC it looks ok, but SVCD player is unbearable. Its too bad this setting has to be checked by default. I have wasted many hours and 3 CDs to learn this the hard way... =/

Oh well, back to square 1. Damn, MotherBeech!! lmao

No wonder not many people have a legit copy of there buggy software. =P