choppy playback encoding star trek TNG

[craigweb2k]

I have removed the log file and placed as an attachment in the hope that its that which is causing it... so my problem.

As I stated in the topic I am having real problems when it comes to encoding the ST:TNG episodes down to SVCD.

I get areas that are really choppy (such as space scenes, and random scenes in the episode, I have tried re-encoding over and over and it's the same areas taht have the choppy playback, yet the play fine on the DVD).

below is a url to an example of the problem I am getting

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/craigweb2k/svcd-test.mpg

[markrb]

Don't attach the log file use cut and paste.

Did you do a search and read all the other posts about choppy playback yet?

http://forum.doom9.org/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=79874&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

Mark

[Bob01605]

Try the SVCD you made on someone elses standalone DVD player. Is it still choppy ? It may be fine - Some DVD players, although they play DVD's just fine at most any bitrate, have trouble with SVCD's at HIGHER bit rates and may stutter a little.

Bob

[craigweb2k]

I have tried it on 2 dvd players and my PC and it's still choppy

[markrb]

Again we need you to cut and paste your log file not attach it.

Try changing the field order on the encoder tab.

Mark

[jaay]

i know you said you tried it on various dvd players but try setting a min bitrate of 1200 (other nice settings are max avg 2300, max 2450) as some standalones dont like an svcd that goes below 1200. are you encoding the pal or ntsc ones? if the pal ones then try deinterlacing if you havent already.

[craigweb2k]

Here is the log file - (it's the PAL version also not the NTSC, maybe a dvd player but, why would a PC be choppy under 1200kbps?)

GENEREL INFO
- Source: DVD (PAL)
- Movie Offset: 2 sec
- CD Overlap seconds: Yes, 2 sec
- Startup delays: Video: 180 ms Audio 1: 180 msAudio 2: 180 ms
- Video format: PAL
- Length: 00:43:39
- CD Images:

VIDEO INFO:
- Encoder: Cinema Craft Encoder 2.50.1.0
- Encoding mode: Multipass VBR
- Passes: 4
- Max. bitrate: 2450
- Avg. bitrate: 2240
- Min. bitrate: 300
- Image Quality Prio: 25
- Antinoise filter: Yes, 2
- Linear quant. scale: Yes
- Zigzag scan order: Yes
- Upper field first: Yes
- Progressive frames: Yes
- iDCT Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX
- Resize method: SimpleResize
- Temporal smoother: No
- Deinterlace: Telecide
- Pulldown: No
- Matrix:
Intra:
8 16 19 22 26 27 29 34
16 16 22 24 27 29 34 37
19 22 26 27 29 34 34 38
22 22 26 27 29 34 37 40
22 26 27 29 32 35 40 48
26 27 29 32 35 40 48 58
26 27 29 34 38 46 56 69
27 29 35 38 46 56 69 83
Non-Intra:
16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16
16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16
16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16
16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16
16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16
16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16
16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16
16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16


AUDIO INFO:
- Audiostreams: 1
- Audio 1 Language: English
- Audio 1 Bitrate: 224
- Audio 1 Sample freq: 44100
- Audio 1 Mode: Stereo
- Audio 1 Besweet: "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Documents and Settings\Craig\Desktop\rip\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\DOCUME~1\Craig\Desktop\rip\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\DOCUME~1\Craig\Desktop\rip\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -ota( -g max ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 224 -m s )

SUBTITLE INFO:
- Subtitlestreams: 0
- Type:
- Sub. 1 Language:
- Sub. 2 Language:
- Sub. 3 Language:
- Sub. 4 Language:

AUTHORING INFO:
- CD Image program:

[markrb]

This is the SVCDinfo.txt file not the log file.
We need the DVD2SVCD_Log.txt file.

Mark

[Labersack]

You're right, only standalones will get into trouble with bitrate under 1200 (actualy I think the critical point is 1150).
Try to uncheck 'upper field first', maybe this helps you.
But to help you more, we really need the log-file.

[droneboy]

I'm stuggling with this as well. I'd like to back up my dvd's to divX using nandub (I know, wrong forum, but I'm de-interlacing in TMPEnc). When I set the TMP's de-interlace filter to "even field" it looks like most of the episode is ok, with the exceptions craigweb pointed out above. Setting the field order to "odd-field" sorts these scenes out but screws up others.

I've read elsewhere that the field dominamce on these discs changes throughout the episodes. I'm pretty new to working with this type of source material, but I'm sure something strange IS going on with the dominance.

Is there a way to set up some kind of "auto-detect" de-interlacing at all? Something that can optimise field selection during filtering and deal with this kind of weird rotating field dominance "on-the-fly"? This looks like a very vast subject and after a few days of trawling guides and boards I'm still a bit confused, with the only solution I can come up with being to re-encode trouble scenes from sources with alternate de-interlace filters applied and then splicing them together (not an ideal solution by any stretch of the imagination)

apologies if this has been covered elsewhere

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