799mb on a 700mb disc, but how???

[hpd58]

Hello all,
Please foregive me for any forum rule errors that I'm bound to make for I am a very new newbie.
I have abtained a 2cd copy of Ocean's 11 in Mpeg2 format. The disc are 700mb BUT the movie file on the first disc alone reads 799mb. Now I've heard on overburning but isn't this "overkill"?? I would like very much to burn/copy this movie but I can't figure out how to. The first disc has four folders on it named: EXT, MPEG2, SEGMENT, and SVCD. The movie file is in the MPEG2 folder. I can't find any .bin or .cue files anywhere. Of course I've been having trouble finding the .bin and .cue files in a few other movies as well. I have no idea as to the process that was used to make these disc. Any info on how to copy these disc would be great.
Humblely,
hpd58:confused:
P.S. System
Micronpc
AMD Athlon 1Gz
40 Gig HD
128 Ram
Lite-on LTR-0841 burner
Lite-on DVD-ROM LTD122

[Inindo]

It's in SVCD Form.

Normally, a CD doesn't just store file information. It also stures informatino about how the files is being stroed, headers, length etc. etc. All this takes room. When doing something like an SVCD, all of that (well, a lot of it anyway) can be thrown out of the window because you KNOW what is being stored (An MPEG-2 Stream). Because it's so specialized, it can store more information.

[hpd58]

Thanks for the reply Inindo,

Then what program or procedure should/can I use to burn a copy?? Without cue or bin files. I tried Adaptec's Direct CD and Easy CD Creator 4 but they say that the 700mb disc I have does not have enough space. I'm confused because the disc that it is on is also 700mb.. As I said before I'm just a newbie and don't have any programing type background. I know just enough about computers to screw them up. HeHe :}

[smiller667]

Use "copy CD" perhaps? This will work in Nero. While Nero is not great for authoring SVCDs, for making a 1:1 copy it will do OK.
Alternatively, extract the video track using Isobuster and then use Vcdeasy to make a new SVCD from it.
If you use "VCD" or "SVCD" (in your case) as project type, then the data will fit ... if you attempt to burn it in ISO9660 (data) format, the cd-r will be too small.

[theReal]

what program or procedure should/can I use to burn a copy?? Without cue or bin files.You must use a program that can burn SVCD. Then, the cue and bin files and the different folders are added automatically because they are needed for the specification. The SVCD will be playable in a lot of standalone DVD players this way.

You could also take an 800MB CDR and just burn the mpeg file on it.

[hpd58]

Thanks for the replies smiller667 and theReal.
I currently do not have Nero so I have not tried it.
thanks hpd58 :)

[Trahald]

svcd/vcds use the error correcting part of the cd to write data (which is about 100 mb on a 80 minute) which the forefathers of vcd figured you didnt really need for video. although makes copying a vcd with a few scratches on it hard sometimes (generally in playback you get a quick glitch but then playback resumes normally) .. data cds can take a bit more abuse and still be readable.. but you lose that 100 megs of space.

[lucindrea]

cdrecord will do a sector by sector copy of any cd ... problem is .. it's linux and i doubt you have a linux machine sitting around with a burner in it .... but if you know of a friend *shrug* .. just thought i would mention it.

[hpd58]

thanks for the reply lucindrea,
But, alas, I no not a sole with such a machine in their possession.





hpd58
;)

[theReal]

Well, there is a whole bunch of windows progs which can do exact sector copies as well - CloneCD is one and I think CDRWin is also one.

But you don't even need to do an exact sector copy for an SVCD. Nero is perfect for this job.
You will only need sector-by-sector progs to copy cds with protection mechanisms