DVD2SVCD and long movies

[herbapou]

Hi,

I want to fit a long movie (170 mins) into 2 CD`s but with good quality. I am encoding with TMPGEnc and I set my parameters so DVD2SVCd will fit the movie in 2 CD`s. The result is a call to TMPGEnc with a low average bitrate (1300) (all normal so far).

At that birate, a full screen 480x480 will results in a poor quality output with mpeg effects. To avoid this, I want to use the "Video Arrange Method" in the "Advance" tab of the settings (in TMPGEnc). What I will do is use resize-center and set the resolution to 432x320. With this number of pixels per frame, there will be no mpeg effects with a bitrate of 1300. Also i would like to use "soften block noise" option in "GOP" tab.

MORE OPTIONS:

That would be nice if they could add more options to pass to CCE or TMPGEnc. CCE has more than TMPGEnc (for example soften block noise is available with CCE but not TMPGEnc)

POSSIBLE SOLUTION:

Is there a way a can modify the command line call to TMPGEnc to add the use of "Video Arrange Method" and "soften block noise".

Also, I could just stop the process after the encode step, do the step manually, and then restart DVD2SVCD at the next step using the Crash recovery feature.

What do you think?

[herbapou]

I feel the urge to backup my 180 mins "Pearl Harbor" so I will just use 3 cd`s instead of doing that trick.

I have bought this movie in a video club (pre-vision) for cheap but I had to return it 3 times cause one of the 2 disc always had problems. Now that I have a working copy I will back it up ASAP and store the original DvD in a closet :). Good thing the video clubs give a 30 days warranty on pre-vision DvD`s.

Also, I was using pre-rip DvD so far with DVD2SVCD, tried to fully used it this morning and the author program abend on me after I press the CD icon. Found this on the Q/A:

Q33: What do I do if Authentication fails?
A: Install ForceASPI 1.7. Download it here at Doom9. WinXP try these ASPI drivers if ForceASPI doesn't work.

Damn ASPI drivers (I have XP). Hopes this works I will try it when I return from work...

[delly01]

There is a newer Aspi on Adaptecs website which is explicitely compatible with Windows XP. It installs even if there is no Adaptec hard- or software in your machine.

Bye,

Detlev

[herbapou]

Thanks for the help - ASPI drivers now working

But here is a few bugs I encounter:

1. I/O error 103 when ripping with internal routines. Reboot the PC restart and it didnt come back.

2. I made a small test (only one chapter) cause it was first time I was ripping with DVD2SVCD and also it was the first time I used CCE to encode. Went fine BUT when I did the whole movie after, DVD2SCVD was always selecting the one chapter I test even if I made sure the entire movie was selected. Again, reboot the PC and problem got away...

3. In Q/A it is specify in multi-processor that CCE only use a small amount of CPU and that its faster than TMPGEnc. Well it was using between 85 and 99 % of CPU AND encoding took 8 hours (4 pass, all option check, safe mode NOT check, 2 hours movie), about same time has TMPGEnc.

4. When encoding the sound with besweat, there seems to be a prioty problem. Its a DOS apps and when its window it not "active" the process takes 10 times longer to execute. Since I am AFK the whole time (night job) I cant go to the PC and make the DOS window active. Maybe there is some settings to do in WIN XP for that.

Sorry if i am not posting the log I am at work now. I will edit this and post it later.

My system is an Emachine, model 4150. (P4 1.5 / 256 mem / 40 gig HD. DVD drive is an old one, 4x dvd read / 24x CD read) OS is WIN XP home edition

[delly01]

Originally posted by herbapou
Thanks for the help - ASPI drivers now working
3. In Q/A it is specify in multi-processor that CCE only use a small amount of CPU and that its faster than TMPGEnc. Well it was using between 85 and 99 % of CPU AND encoding took 8 hours (4 pass, all option check, safe mode NOT check, 2 hours movie), about same time has TMPGEnc.


Hello, Q/A is insofar right as a single run of CCE is much faster. By running 4 passes, CCE achieves imho a better quality for medium bitrates than TMPG. If you work with higher bitrates than 2000, you will probably not gain much from the third and fourth pass and can reduce the number of passes; this way, CCE will indeed be faster and provide a similar (2-pass) or even better quality (3-pass) than TMPG.

Concerning your besweet-problem: You could try to create a shortcut to besweet.exe with %1 %2 %3 %4 %5... in its settings, set the window to maximized and fullscreen and adjust dvd2svcd to call the link instead of the exe. I haven't tried this myself, but that's the way it works for me in some other applications.

Bye

Detlev

[herbapou]

Yep your right that CCE makes 4 pass while TMPGEnc makes 2 in about the same time.

I have notice the quality is better with CCE. When I zoom 2X a movie made with CCE and one made with TMPGEnc, its obvious CCE 4 pass is way better, lot less MPEG artifacts. But when un-zoom, they look pretty much the same.

I am using avg bitrate < 1850 cause my JVC DvD player cant play higher bitrate SVCD`s. But between 1500 and 1850, I find the quality to be very good.

[DDogg]

Try tmpg CQ mode with 1850 (2200 would be better) as max and 755 as min. I would appreciate hearing how this looks in comparison to the 2 pass tmpg multipass if you have the time.