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Skinipup
18th March 2002, 16:20
I am having a hellava time trying to dub a DVD.
The Specks
Source DVD: Family Guy PAL R2 (Dual Layer)
Dest DVD+RW: HP dvd100i
Player: Pioneer DV434 (seems to play PAL VCD, but B/W on PAL DVD??)
The source DVD contains 7 - 20 minuteish episodes. The "middle" episode is split between layers (DOH!)
I have tried MANY different methods of re-encoding, stretching audio, demux, remux, allsux :p none of which have worked...
So I am going to start from zero again...I am in need of any opinions of what the best method would be?
Sherlock Holmes
18th March 2002, 21:50
I am a movie dubber in Iran
But I didn't understand what exactly you want
Explain please
porsche9111
2nd April 2002, 05:30
Hey skinipup, did u figure it out yet....I have the family guy dvd's too and I want to do the same. thanks
arcman
2nd April 2002, 09:06
Originally posted by Skinipup
I am having a hellava time trying to dub a DVD.
The Specks
Source DVD: Family Guy PAL R2 (Dual Layer)
Dest DVD+RW: HP dvd100i
Player: Pioneer DV434 (seems to play PAL VCD, but B/W on PAL DVD??)
The source DVD contains 7 - 20 minuteish episodes. The "middle" episode is split between layers (DOH!)
I have tried MANY different methods of re-encoding, stretching audio, demux, remux, allsux :p none of which have worked...
So I am going to start from zero again...I am in need of any opinions of what the best method would be?
Uh, what exactly are you trying to do?
If you want to make a NTSC version of a PAL movie I suggest this.
This is a inverse version of a NTSC to PAL change:
Facts:
Video: PAL movie is 25FPS -> NTSC is ~24FPS encapsulated to ~30FPS using TeleCine. You know this 3:2 pulldown. So to make PAL to NTSC you have to change the frame rate from 25 to ~24 (is it 23.97) then feed it to some encoder and apply a 3:2 pulldown. In TmpgEnc you can do this internally but in CCE you have to do this afterwards.
Audio: Sound track in PAL movies is speeded up by 4% so you have to slow down it by this.
NOTE: I have no idea if this works this easy as it is just a inverted method how NTSC movies can be ported to PAL.
Arc
Skinipup
3rd April 2002, 03:02
I originally wanted to make an exact (as possible) NTSC DVD+RW copy of a PAL DVD. After much thought, some research, and too much wasted time, I may go back an old plan...
I guess due to the nature of standalone DVD players, they may not all have the "oomph" to do PAL to NTSC conversion at MPEG2. Some (as mine does) may be able to do a fine job at MPEG1. I guess the conversion chips just don't have that much overhead...
Trying to do PAL to NTSC conversions and resynch audio has just been too difficult, takes too long, suffers quality problems and has just had no good results.
I read that you can create VCDs on DVD+RW media and it plays just like a regular VCD in a standalone. So I may just rip the DVD and re-encode in PAL VCD quality MPEG1. The standalone DVD can take care of the conversion (which it seems to do adequately). I guess I will just have to sacrafice a bit of quality for easy. :(
Inwards
3rd April 2002, 16:38
I have had some success converting PAL DVDs to NTSC. The process is fairly straightforward but you have to know what you're doing. BTW - this process only works for progressive material.
1 - Rip the main movie and load /save it in DVD2AVI.
2 - Resize the movie to 720x480 using your favorite method (TMPGEnc, AVISynth, VirtualDub, etc).
3 - Encode the movie. It's okay to leave it at 25fps for now.
4 - Run the movie through pulldown.exe. This will convert it to 29.97 NTSC.
5 - Convert the ac3 tracks into .wav files. If you just have stereo, this is easy. If you want to keep 5.1, you can use BeSweet to split the ac3 into 6 seperate waves.
6 - Load the wav file(s) into CoolEdit or somesuch program and change the length. Choose an option that preserves the pitch. In CoolEdit, you'll want to change the rate from 100 to 95.904. Save the new wav(s).
7 - Load the wav(s) into SoftEncode and re-encode them in AC3 format.
At this point you should have an NTSC-compatible m2v and ac3 which you can author in the normal way.
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