Swordfish + I-Author ? = Audio Out Of Sync?

[mato]

hi, idon't know if i'm in the right section of the forum, but what the hell...
the problem is: i encoded for the first time Swordfish DVD with dvd2svcd 1.0.7 b4 with I-Author after finding out that my Apex AD-500W DVD Player only plays CVD subtitles made with I-Author, not VCDXBUILD. SO, after a day doing its job, i tested with powerdvdxp4 and found out that audio was out of sync, like 3 or 4 sconds, a lot.
i burned to a cd and the same in my player.
the quetion is: why did it happen???
thanx

here is the log file.

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- 15/03/2002 11:53:37 p.m.
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.7 build 4
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 15/03/2002 11:53:39 p.m.
- Analyzing subtitles
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Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x21 Language: Portugues
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x20 Language: Portugues
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x23 Language: Español
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x22 Language: Español
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x25 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x24 Language: English

Executing subtitle selection/verification.
Showing next subtitle.
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x25 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x24 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x23 Language: Español
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x22 Language: Español
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x21 Language: Portugues
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x20 Language: Portugues
Subtitle selection/verification accepted.
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- 15/03/2002 11:55:11 p.m.
- Free on drive C: 13836.17 mb
- Extracting the subtitles.
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Subtitle extraction finished. Extracted these subtitles:
SVCD Stream no: 2 Language: English Num. of subs: 901
SVCD Stream no: 1 Language: Español Num. of subs: 927
SVCD Stream no: 3 Language: Portugues Num. of subs: 912

Saving Subtitles
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- 16/03/2002 12:07:15 a.m.
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -IA=1 -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\SWORDFISH\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.vob,C:\SWORDFISH\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.vob,C:\SWORDFISH\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_3.vob,C:\SWORDFISH\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_4.vob,C:\SWORDFISH\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_5.vob,C:\SWORDFISH\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_6.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Force Film activated!
Framerate: 23976
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 16/03/2002 12:15:55 a.m.
- Free on drive C: 13811.40 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -73 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 16/03/2002 12:30:04 a.m.
- Free on drive C: 13537.88 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\VIDEOT~1\DVD2SV~1.7B1\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\VIDEOT~1\DVD2SV~1.7B1\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -ota( -g max -d -73 ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 16/03/2002 01:31:46 a.m.
- Free on drive C: 13674.62 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 16/03/2002 01:31:53 a.m.
- Free on drive C: 13674.23 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 1667874376
AudioSectors: 149244956
VideoPAPO: 23524380
ScanOffsetBytes: 176470
SeqAligningBytes: 11215623
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 10334828
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 150.00
PureMPEGStream: 1473378110.93
Seconds: 6135.55
CalcMPEGStream: 1473378110.93
Frames: 147058
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 794.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 147058
Anti Noise Filter: 2
Passes: 5
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 1921
Closing program
Video Encoding finished.

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- 17/03/2002 12:31:27 a.m.
- Free on drive C: 12233.81 mb
- Video Pulldown
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Executing Pulldown. Commandline:
"C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\pulldown\pulldown.exe" "C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv" "C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\Pulldown_Encoded_Video_NTSC.mpv"
Video pulldown finished.

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- 17/03/2002 12:49:24 a.m.
- Free on drive C: 10829.39 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 17/03/2002 12:49:26 a.m.
- Free on drive C: 10829.38 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 17/03/2002 12:49:28 a.m.
- Free on drive C: 10829.38 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 794 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3198 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 3200
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 794 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 17/03/2002 01:29:23 a.m.
- Free on drive C: 9251.98 mb
- Demuxing
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Demuxing: C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Demuxing: C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Demuxing finished.

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- 17/03/2002 01:49:59 a.m.
- Free on drive C: 9287.64 mb
- Creating CD-Images using I-Author
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Saving Subtitle Timecodes.
SVCD subtitles.
Length of C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00 Stream 1.mp2
3200
Length of C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01 Stream 1.mp2
2774
Executing I-Author Muxer.
Multiplexing:
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpv
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00 Stream 1.mp2
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\subs\es1-1.txt
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\subs\es1-1.txt
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\subs\en2-1.txt
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\subs\en2-1.txt
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\subs\pt3-1.txt
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\subs\pt3-1.txt
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\IAuthor_Muxed_File.MPS
Multiplexing finished.

Closing program
Executing I-Author. Creating CD-Image filename:
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.cif
Closing program
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- 17/03/2002 05:18:21 a.m.
- Free on drive C: 9262.43 mb
- Converting CD-Image using CDMage
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Executing CDMage
converting: "C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.cif" to bin/cue image.
CD Image conversion finished.

Closing program
Executing I-Author Muxer.
Multiplexing:
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpv
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01 Stream 1.mp2
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\subs\es1-2.txt
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\subs\es1-2.txt
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\subs\en2-2.txt
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\subs\en2-2.txt
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\subs\pt3-2.txt
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\subs\pt3-2.txt
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\IAuthor_Muxed_File.MPS
Multiplexing finished.

Closing program
Executing I-Author. Creating CD-Image filename:
- C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.cif
Closing program
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- 17/03/2002 05:55:00 a.m.
- Free on drive C: 8439.66 mb
- Converting CD-Image using CDMage
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Executing CDMage
converting: "C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.cif" to bin/cue image.
CD Image conversion finished.

Closing program
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 17/03/2002 06:07:22 a.m.
- Free on drive C: 7648.88 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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and the svcdinfo.txt:

GENEREL INFO
- Source: DVD (NTSC)
- Movie Offset: 2 sec
- CD Overlap seconds: Yes, 2 sec
- Startup delays: Video: 180 ms Audio 1: 180 msAudio 2: 180 ms
- Video format: NTSC
- Length: 01:42:13
- CD Images:

VIDEO INFO:
- Encoder: Cinema Craft Encoder 2.50.1.0
- Encoding mode: Multipass VBR
- Passes: 5
- Max. bitrate: 2530
- Avg. bitrate: 1921
- Min. bitrate: 300
- Image Quality Prio: 17
- Antinoise filter: Yes, 2
- Linear quant. scale: Yes
- Zigzag scan order: Yes
- Upper field first: Yes
- Progressive frames: Yes
- iDCT Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX
- Resize method: BicubicResize b value: 0.00 c value: 0.75
- Temporal smoother: No
- NTSC Field Operation: Force Film On
- Deinterlace: None
- Pulldown: Yes
- Matrix:
Intra:
8 16 19 22 26 27 29 34
16 16 22 24 27 29 34 37
19 22 26 27 29 34 34 38
22 22 26 27 29 34 37 40
22 26 27 29 32 35 40 48
26 27 29 32 35 40 48 58
26 27 29 34 38 46 56 69
27 29 35 38 46 56 69 83
Non-Intra:
16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16
16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16
16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16
16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16
16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16
16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16
16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16
16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16


AUDIO INFO:
- Audiostreams: 1
- Audio 1 Language: English
- Audio 1 Bitrate: 192
- Audio 1 Sample freq: 44100
- Audio 1 Mode: Stereo
- Audio 1 Besweet: "C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\VIDEOT~1\DVD2SV~1.7B1\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\VIDEOT~1\DVD2SV~1.7B1\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -ota( -g max -d -73 ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )

SUBTITLE INFO:
- Subtitlestreams: 3
- Type: CVD
- Sub. 1 Language: N/A
- Sub. 2 Language: Español
- Sub. 3 Language: English
- Sub. 4 Language: Portugues

AUTHORING INFO:
- CD Image program: Enreach I-Author

and the encodedaudio.txt:

BeSweet v1.2b6 logfile.
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Logging start : 03/16/02 , 00:30:08.

C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 -output C:\VIDEOT~1\DVD2SV~1.7B1\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2 -logfile C:\VIDEOT~1\DVD2SV~1.7B1\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -ota( -g max -d -73 ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : C:\Video Tools\DVD2SVCD 1.0.7 B1\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: C:\VIDEOT~1\DVD2SV~1.7B1\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: No
[00:00:00:-73] | Overall Track Gain: 13.1dB
[00:00:00:-73] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:-73] | Output Stereo mode: Dolby surround compatible
[00:00:00:-73] | Total Gain: 0.0dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:-73] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:-73] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:-73] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:-73] | Dialog normalization: No
[00:00:00:-73] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:-73] +-------- SSRC -------
[00:00:00:-73] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:-73] | Dest. Sample-Rate: 44.1KHz
[00:00:00:-73] | Attenuation : 0.0db
[00:00:00:-73] +-------- 2LAME ------
[00:00:00:-73] | Bitrate method : CBR
[00:00:00:-73] | MP2 bitrate : 192
[00:00:00:-73] | Channels Mode : Stereo
[00:00:00:-73] | Error Protection: Yes
[00:00:00:-73] +---------------------
[01:39:35:095] Conversion Completed !
Logging ends : 03/16/02 , 01:31:45.

[SIZE=1]

[mrbass]

rip with internal routines and you should be set. Swordfish has a zero-byte vob or something like that.

[mato]

are you sure???
i think it has nothing to do with it???
help me?!?!?

[markrb]

Read the Q + A, DVD2SVCD FAQ and the Mandatory read before you post. If you did you would have seen this.

Q48: I have been having sync and other problems with VOB files I have ripped with another ripper, like SmartRipper?
A: Always use the internal routines or the built in Vstrip unless you have no other choice. SmartRipper and other rippers are known to cause issues occasionally with DVD2SVCD.

You ask for help mrbass gives it to you. You refuse to listen to a senior member. Take my advice and don't blow off someone trying to help you if you want answers from this forum in the future.

Mark

[Bob01605]

Check to see if the first chapter of the first VOB is a ZERO byte chapter. After loading the IFO file in the Conversion tab use the movie length drop down to look at the chapters. See if the first chapter shows some time or shows ZERO time. If it shows ZERO time then DESELECT the first chapter do the encode and the movie should sync. I recently had this problem (that I mentioned in another post) with the movie "10 Things I Hate About You " ..

Bob

[mevbo]

I had the same problem with this film with any ripping type. You have to re-mux the file with bbmpeg with a audio offset of 7000ms. You can tweak more if you like, but this gets it very close.:D

[mato]

i think there is another problem here.

today i was reading the readme of dvdx and found out that if you rip the totallity of a dvd you may have audio sync problems.

the problem is that this happen beacuse the first part of the movie does NOT have audio!!!!! (the part of the copyrights!)

so the solution would be to jump that part, but how?

if you dont believe me read the readme of the dvdx, and think about it, it's totally true!

any comments please!?

[mato]

i'm sorry but what i said before is beacuse:

1. i dont know how to check if the first byte is ZERO
2. ripping with internal routines (vstrip) gives me the same problem.

;)

thanx

[markrb]

Try using internal routines and uncheck the first chapter if it shows up as 0 length in the chapter popup. Sometimes the first chapter has no data, but it ends up screwing up the sync bad.
It can't be the copywrite screen, because that does not get ripped.

Mark

[mato]

thanx!!!:D

one more thing:;)
do you recommed **REALLY** using vStrip with internal routines than dvd decrypter or smart ripper?
thanx!:)

[mrbass]

if you asked like 4 or 5 months ago I would say smartripper was better. But currently it's a toss up I'd say as far as getting the job done. I believe (could be wrong) doom9 prefers vstrip which is written by a 22yr old. Young people have all the brains. Smartripper is used quite bit by divx crowd.
My favorites are in order (internal routines, smartripper, vstrip)
Only reason I occasionally use smartripper for is for dual layer/angle dvds and cuz it has a 'new folder' option.

Currently, I'm doing an Indian rain dance and sacrificial ceremony of a goat in hopes that dvd2svcd might add 'new folder' to the dvdrip section.

[mato]

THANX:D

[markrb]

There have been many, many problems with using SmartRipper and/or DVD decrypter and in many cases re-ripping with the included rippers has solved them.
There are times when the internal routines or Vstrip just doesn't work and in that case try and use and older version (before 2.40) of SmartRipper. The biggest group of problems seemed to happen right around there.

I will assure you whenever you post you are having a problem and the people here realize you are not using the included rippers that you will get little help until you do. It is just to common a problem.

Mark