building the ultimate encoding machine, cheaply!

[axia]

now im currently running a moderatly fast p.c yet my cce encoding still take a while, cce encodes at about max 0.75, i have been toying around with the idea of buying a dual board, probably tyan tiger, the only stumbling point is the price of mp chips , then i came upon this article http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/articles.hwz?cid=2&aid=393&page=2
this would allow me to keep my existing unlocked overclocked xp1900 and reduce the cost of the conversion.
Obviosly i would have to source cce pro, but that shouldnt be a problem.
Ive seen some board members with ebcoding stats of 2.2 on dual boards!

[markrb]

If you are planning on using DVD2SVCD with this setup it will mostly be a waste. While CCE does support dual Cpu's the frameserver does not. If your only goal is to increase the speed of DVD2SVCD don't bother going dual. If you want to be better able to use the computer while you encode then it might be worth it. See the Q + A it will tell you the same thing.

Mark

[mkanar]

markb is right about having a dual setup with DVD2AVI+MPEGDEC.DLL+AVISynth+CCE ... the encoding process will only scale to roughly 55% of the overall CPU horsepower. However, TMPGEnc is different; it utilizes a seperate thread for video prefetch and and use 2 threads for the video encoding pipeline in the case of a 2 CPU setup and thus scales to about 100%. Of course, TMPGEnc support is still rather new, etc...

If cost is really a factor, then a dual setup is not the most economical choice of setup. Instead, purchase a fast and cheap motherboard such as the ECS K7S5A (SiS 735) or ECS K7S6A (SiS 745), and throw an AthlonXP processor onto it that has a good performance/price ratio.


MKanar

[chainsaw135]

Yeah I myself own 2 K7S5A motherboards and love them. The cost was so low I was able to buy a faster cpu for both of them. Tho i've noticed on some message boards of people having alot of trouble with that make of motherboard I have not had any problems and neither has the 10 other k7s5a my friends have.

[axia]

well even i can see the funny side of this.,,,,http://www.amdmb.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=102966

[jasond]

Originally posted by chainsaw135
Yeah I myself own 2 K7S5A motherboards and love them. The cost was so low I was able to buy a faster cpu for both of them. Tho i've noticed on some message boards of people having alot of trouble with that make of motherboard I have not had any problems and neither has the 10 other k7s5a my friends have.


I have a k7s5a running a duron 1 gig and love it also

getting 0.970 with WS / 1.040 FS

[poopity poop]

what is an MP configuration?
I'm thinking of getting a dul processor system, and I'm just wondering the differences that I might encounter when trying to set it up. Is there anything different about having two processors while setting it up and getting programs to run?

[markrb]

MP is another CPU from AMD. It's pretty much the same thing as the XP CPU except it is multiple CPU capable and is also considered a mobile CPU. The AMD XP CPU is not multiple CPU capable.

Mark

[delly01]

Actually, the XP-processor is inofficially also multiprocessor capable. Therefore, Tyan supports XP-processors on their dual Athlon-board. However, AMD reserves the right to produce new revisions of the cpu which are not SMP-enabled.

I do not foresee this for the Palomino, but there is still nothing official about SMP in the coming release called "Thoroughbred".

Bye,

Detlev

[da franksta]

@delly01
first of all, Tyan does not officially support athlon xp processors (which does not mean it doesn't work)
secondly, the new axp processors have smp disabled
see this:
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/articles.hwz?cid=2&aid=393&page=1

[markrb]

XP CPU's are not officially capable of being in a dual system. This is directly from AMD. Only the MP CPU is officially supported in a Dual CPU system. Here is a copy of a post I made in another forum just yesterday on this.

I was reading that some of you had dual XP machines and I questioned that as I thought the XP CPU's were not capable of going dual.
Well I did some research and found out that they are not supposed to be used in a dual system and in fact motherboards are suppose to detect if they are XP's and disable SMP, but apparently some motherboard companies didn't listen to AMD and didn't impliment this feature much to the glee of computer users. However AMD has a new stradegy and now without modding your CPU you can no longer dual XP cpu's and you cannot use the newer MPx chipset boards with XP's. Here is a qoute from a very respected member of a computer forum I frequent:


HOWEVER, XP chips that were manufacturered in the past 4-6 weeks have an L5 bridge cut that disables SMP operation unless you reconnect it. I don't know if the 2462 disables SMP operation but the newer MPx chipset boards do.


It's all the bottom line I guess. MP's get a premium over XP's.

@poopity poop don't forget if you are serving the video the frame server must also support dual CPU's to see much improvement. As far as I know Avisynth does not. If you plan on using DVD2SVCD you will not see much improvement and your setup will mostly be a waste.

Mark

[poopity poop]

I always encode to an uncompressed huffYUV avi (like everyone should :) )first so I would definetly notice a speed inprovment, thanks