how to make minor changes after encoding SVCD

[student]

Hello Everyone,
i encoded an indian movie which is in ntse format. the quality is preety good but it shakes while playing back on my standalone. also I want to know that how can i change the title picture and do dvd chapter instead of fixed chapters without encoding all over again. i was encoding an avi before and when i encoded this movie i forgot to change the title picture and dvd chapters from fixed time chapters. any help will be a great help.
Thanks in advance.

[markrb]

Make a new directory and point DVD2SVCD there.
Put the new jpg into the directory and select it with DVD2SVCD
Start DVD2SVCD like normal
After CCE has started the main movie encoding close it and DVD2SVCD.
Copy all the files named tittle picture.? into the first directory. I think you only need .mpv, but I don't have any finished encodes to look at now.
Start DVD2SVCD and make sure to change back to the first directory.
Start Crash Recovery and I am pretty sure you can use it from SVCD Authoring. That should replace the tittle picture.

I am not certain exactly how to do the DVD chapters.

This will do nothing for the shaking. It is a serpate problem that could be anything. It might be your player, the original video used, it might be interlaced, it might need IVTC, the bitrate wasn't high enough, almost anything. Without more info there is no way to tell.

Try reading the Mandatory read post, the Newbie FAQ and the Q + A. At least this way if there is nothing there that helps you will know better what we kind of info we need.

Mark

[student]

Thanks for your help Markrb. So if i wand DVD chapters I need to encode the video again. The shaking is not only on my player I,ve tried on others too, the same. I am attaching the log file if that helps and also the project file.
Thanks again.

[General]
Version=DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.7 build 4
[Filenames]
DVDAudioFileName0=D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
MP2FileName0=D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\Encoded_audio_1.mp2
DVDAudioFileName1=D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\Extracted_audio_2
MP2FileName1=D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\Encoded_audio_2.mp2
IFOFilename=E:\DVDRIP\Vts_01_0.ifo
MPVFileName=D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv
FinalMPVName=D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv
TitlePictureFileName=D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\TitlePicture.bmp
ChangeCDPictureFileName=D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\ChangeCDPicture.bmp
TargetFolder=E:\DVDRIP\
FinalbbMPEGFileName=D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File-subbed
[VOBFiles]
VobName_0=E:\DVDRIP\Vts_01_1.vob
VobName_1=E:\DVDRIP\Vts_01_2.vob
VobName_2=E:\DVDRIP\Vts_01_3.vob
VobName_3=E:\DVDRIP\Vts_01_4.vob
VobName_4=E:\DVDRIP\Vts_01_5.vob
VobName_5=E:\DVDRIP\Vts_01_6.vob
VobName_6=E:\DVDRIP\Vts_01_7.vob
[Settings]
Project Position=62
ForceFilm=1
FileSource=0
PGCISelect=0
bbMPEGCDSize=793
Frames=323518
VideoPTS=347
PAL=0
NTSC2PAL=0
TitlePictureFormat=4
ChangeCDPictureFormat=1
viHorizontalSize=720
viVerticalSize=480
viAspectRatio=2
viFrameRate=4
vifps=0
SelectedAspectRatio=0
CDLabel=HUMDILDECHUKESANAM
MovieTitle=HUMDILDECHUKESANAM
Number of images=3
Volumes=3
fps=29.97
Deinterlace=0
SmartDeinterlace Mode=2
SmartDeinterlace Threshold=10
SmartDeinterlace Denoise=1
SmartDeinterlace Blend=0
SmartDeinterlace Fast=1
AudioPTS0=280
Delay0=0
AudioSource0=0
AudioLangCode0=hi
AudioLanguage0=Hindi
AudioStream0=0
AudioChannels0=2
wFormatTag0=0
nSamplesPerSec0=0
AudioPTS1=0
Delay1=0
AudioSource1=0
AudioLangCode1=
AudioLanguage1=
AudioStream1=-1
AudioChannels1=0
wFormatTag1=0
nSamplesPerSec1=0
NumOfAudioStreams=1
SubtitleFilename=D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\dvd2svcd subtitles file.ini
[MovieInfo]
MovieOffset=2 sec
CDOverlapSeconds=Yes, 2 sec
StartupDelays=Video: 180 ms Audio 1: 180 msAudio 2: 180 ms
VideoFormat=NTSC
Length=02:59:54
Images=
Encoder=Cinema Craft Encoder 2.50.1.0
EncodingMode=Multipass VBR
AvgBitrate=1577
MaxBitrate=2450
MinBitrate=300
QFactor=5
Passes=3
ImageQualityPriority=17
AntinoiseFilter=Yes, 2
LinearQuantizerScale=Yes
ZigzagScanningOrder=Yes
UpperFieldFirst=Yes
ProgressiveFrames=Yes
CQValue=
MotionSearchPrecision=
DCComponentPrecision=
OutputYUVData=
FloatingPointDCT=
NoMotionSearch=
SoftenBlockNoise=
iDCTAlgorithm=32-bit SSE MMX
ResizeMethod=SimpleResize
TemporalSmoother=Yes, Strength: 2 Radius: 1
Matrix=Intra:| 8 16 19 22 26 27 29 34 |16 16 22 24 27 29 34 37 |19 22 26 27 29 34 34 38 |22 22 26 27 29 34 37 40 |22 26 27 29 32 35 40 48 |26 27 29 32 35 40 48 58 |26 27 29 34 38 46 56 69 |27 29 35 38 46 56 69 83 |Non-Intra:|16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 |16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 |16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 |16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 |16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 |16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 |16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 |16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 |
NTSCFieldOperation=Force Film Off
Deinterlace=None
Pulldown=No
Audiostreams=1
AudioLanguage0=Hindi
AudioBitrate0=224
AudioSampleFrequency0=48000
AudioMode0=Stereo
AudioLanguage1=
AudioBitrate1=
AudioSampleFrequency1=
AudioMode1=
Subtitlestreams=1
Type=CVD
SubtitleInfo0=English
SubtitleInfo1=
SubtitleInfo2=
SubtitleInfo3=
Authoring=VCDXBuild
UseEntrysvd=No

[markrb]

The DVD2SVCD_log.txt file is more useful.

I am not saying you need to re-encode the video to get DVD chapters just that I am not sure how to go about it.

The shaking will prpbably make you re-encode the video if you can get rid of it.

Mark

[student]

Markrb I attaching the log file. I can reencode if I have to despite my slow system,which I want to upgrade just for DVD2SVCD but just dont know which M/B (AMD 761 or VIA 266A) to get. Any suggestion is welcome.
Thanks yet again.

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- 15/03/2002 10:24:07 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.7 build 4
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 15/03/2002 10:24:09 PM
- Analyzing subtitles
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Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x21 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x20 Language: Malay

Executing subtitle selection/verification.
Subtitle selection/verification accepted.
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- 15/03/2002 10:24:20 PM
- Free on drive D: 16197.31 mb
- Extracting the subtitles.
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Subtitle extraction finished. Extracted these subtitles:
SVCD Stream no: 1 Language: English Num. of subs: 932

Saving Subtitles
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- 15/03/2002 10:30:21 PM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- E:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"E:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -IA=1 -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[E:\DVDRIP\Vts_01_1.vob,E:\DVDRIP\Vts_01_2.vob,E:\DVDRIP\Vts_01_3.vob,E:\DVDRIP\Vts_01_4.vob,E:\DVDRIP\Vts_01_5.vob,E:\DVDRIP\Vts_01_6.vob,E:\DVDRIP\Vts_01_7.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Force Film NOT activated!
Framerate: 29970
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 15/03/2002 10:34:54 PM
- Free on drive D: 16181.77 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -67 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 15/03/2002 10:44:14 PM
- Free on drive D: 15934.69 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"E:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "D:\HUMDIL~1\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "D:\HUMDIL~1\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -ota( -g max -d -67 ) -2lame( -e -b 224 -m s )
Audio conversion of D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 15/03/2002 11:16:51 PM
- Free on drive D: 15646.39 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: E:\Documents and Settings\WINXPCO\My Documents\FOOTBALL.jpg
Finished converting pictures
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- 15/03/2002 11:16:57 PM
- Free on drive D: 15645.58 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 2499719964
AudioSectors: 306454260
VideoPAPO: 33974856
ScanOffsetBytes: 388222
SeqAligningBytes: 24673639
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 4601520
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 300.00
PureMPEGStream: 2129627454.93
Seconds: 10798.73
CalcMPEGStream: 2129627454.93
Frames: 323518
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 793.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 323518
Anti Noise Filter: 2
Passes: 3
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2450
Avg. Bitrate: 1577
Closing program
Video Encoding finished.

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- 17/03/2002 5:16:34 AM
- Free on drive D: 13541.14 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: E:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"E:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 17/03/2002 5:16:40 AM
- Free on drive D: 13541.09 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: E:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 17/03/2002 5:16:43 AM
- Free on drive D: 13541.09 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: E:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 793 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"E:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3509 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 3511
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 793 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"E:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
3833 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 7344
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 793 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"E:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 17/03/2002 5:41:50 AM
- Free on drive D: 11166.58 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3511.944 seconds D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
3835.056 seconds D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing: D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
3450.744 seconds D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
Analyzing finished.

Saving Subtitle Timecodes.
SVCD subtitles.
Length of D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3511
Length of D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
3835
Length of D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
3450
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- 17/03/2002 5:43:29 AM
- Free on drive D: 11165.83 mb
- Multiplexing CVD Subtitles
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Muxing English subtitles, CD 1
Executing SubMux. Commandline:
"E:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\SubMux\SubMux.exe" -s0 -C "D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg" "D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\en1-1.sub" "D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File-subbed00.mpg"
Muxing English subtitles, CD 2
Executing SubMux. Commandline:
"E:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\SubMux\SubMux.exe" -s0 -C "D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg" "D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\en1-2.sub" "D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File-subbed01.mpg"
Muxing English subtitles, CD 3
Executing SubMux. Commandline:
"E:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\SubMux\SubMux.exe" -s0 -C "D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg" "D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\en1-3.sub" "D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\bbMPEG_Muxed_File-subbed02.mpg"
Muxing subtitles finished
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- 17/03/2002 5:49:09 AM
- Free on drive D: 8788.00 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 11

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"E:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --cue-file="D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
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- 17/03/2002 5:51:35 AM
- Free on drive D: 7982.92 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 12

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"E:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --cue-file="D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\VCDXBuild_Script_2.xml"
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- 17/03/2002 5:53:59 AM
- Free on drive D: 7177.88 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 11

CD image #3: CD_Image_File_CD3.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"E:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --cue-file="D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\CD_Image_File_CD3.cue" --bin-file="D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\CD_Image_File_CD3.bin" "D:\HUM DIL DE CHUKE SANAM\VCDXBuild_Script_3.xml"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 17/03/2002 5:56:25 AM
- Free on drive D: 6377.22 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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[Kedirekin]

I'm not sure how you can get chapters without re-encoding, but I may be able to suggest a way to get rid of the shaking without re-encoding.

You're stream is 29.97 fps (Force Film NOT activated! Framerate: 29970). It's likely that the reason for the shaking is incorrect field order. You may be able to use pulldown.exe to fix it. Use a syntax something like

pulldown -nopulldown -tff odd movie_name.mpv new_movie_name.mpv


Then do crash recovery from the step after video encoding (muxing, I think). You'll need to swap the names of your mpv files first (so that DVD2SVCD will do crash recovery using the new mpv you just created).

I'd try -tff odd first. If it's still jerky, try again with -tff even.

Hope that helps.

[student]

Thanks Kedirekin. Do i put this syntex in project file and where.
many thanks.

[Kedirekin]

Actually, you run it separately in a command prompt window (or write a batch file).

Incidentally I'm having to do the same thing myself tonight, though I can't check my results because my roommate is using the TV.

And I got the syntax wrong above. The mpv source and destination file names need to go before the options. I guess I've been using solaris a little too much lately.

Hint: to write it as a batch file, create an empty text file in the same directory as you mpv file. Add, on a single line

pulldown movie_name.mpv new_movie_name.mpv -nopulldown -tff odd

then save it as something.bat (doesn't matter what you call it, as long as it ends in .bat).

Find pulldown.exe under your DVD2SVCD program directory and copy it to the mpv directory as well.

Then just double click the batch file. After a few minutes, you should have another mpv file with the (hopefully correct) new field order. Swap the mpv file names, do crash recover, then burn and test it. If it's jerky (like the one you have now), change -tff to -tff even and try again.

Hope it helps (and I hope it works for me as well).

[Amit]

Can't help you with your problem much. But just for your information, I have also just started encoding DVDs with this program. And I only encode Indian DVDs. After encoding same DVD for 2-3 times, this the conclusion I have reached on.

Do not change the aspect ratio under CONVERSION tab. DVD2SVCD can automatically detect the correct aspect ratio mostly. You can double check that by viewing your DVD on your computer with any Software DVD player link WinDVD or PowerDVD. You have to make sure it's 16:9 or 4:3. Most of EROS entertainment moview are 16:9 (for your information).

The other thing you need to know is whether the movie is NTSC or FILM type. If it's NTSC, as in your case, set the Deinterlace to SMARTDEINTERLACE. Do not change the Smartdeinterlace Settings.

And the most important thing. Use DVD2SVCD internal routines to rip your DVD (remove macrovision) to your Hard Disk. This is very important, if you want audio sync.

Once you follow the above procedure, you will not have any video shakes as well as audio sync problems.

Now for your Title picture and CD Change picture, lot of people have already given your good suggestions. One other problem that you might face, which I am still researching on is that most of the time the CD will mid way between a song. I will let you know once I figure out how to do the final muxing and svcd chaptering manualy as DVD2SVCD can not take care of it.

I hope the above information will help you in your further rips.

-Amit

[student]

Thanks Kedirekin, I figured it out just some time after I reply you also the correct command line. it fixed my movie the second time when when i did the pulldown with even field. I managed to shange the title and change cd picture aswell. I dont have any chapters now because when I change the title pictures I tried with dvd chapters and so it changed my dvd2svcd chapters file. because i encoded the movie initially with 300sec chapters so it wont do it unless I can create dvd2svcd chapters file that it correct discription of 300 sec encoded movie.
thanks heapes.

[student]

Thanks Amit,
This was my first hindi movie convertion because we just stated getting hindi DVDs here in OZland. I really appreciat your tips. As you can see from my reply to Kedirekin I manage to get rid of the shaking problem. Now I just dont have chapters but thats not a huge worry. I will aplly your suggestions in the COHORE CHORE CHUPKE CHUPKE convertion I am about to start now.
Thanks heapes for your input.
Gurinder.