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BILKO1
17th March 2002, 01:37
Hi i've backed up several dvds now using dvd2svcd 1.0.6 and the various guides no problems.But now i have run into a problem i'm trying to back up The 10th Kingdom, firstly i had troulble ripping the vob files but using v strip sorted this.When i finished ripping all 3 dvds i burnt a svcd using the .cue/.bin files and cdrwin, played back on my pc using power dvd xp no problems, but when i play in the standalone i get lines across images that move quick.i've read through the various guides and topics but i'm getting more confused.If its a interlace problem i've got it should be fine on a standalone and poor on pc right?Anyway i re-ripped again using smart deinterlace and its exactly the same?What am i doing wrong?I've tried using a region 1 and 2 version of the dvd but makes no odds.I've tried playing the svcd in different standalone players still lines on moving images.Please help as this film takes me 36 hours to convert and i'm not letting the kids near it until its backed up lol...
BILKO1
17th March 2002, 15:38
UPDATE i just re ripped a chapter usings smartdeinterlace but still the same..Any suggestion welcome please...
Kedirekin
17th March 2002, 15:53
I've just waded through your post, but to be honest, I can't picture what you're describing. At face value, it sounds like an interlacing problem, but if it is still there after deinterlacing, I don't see how it can be. It's also odd that it plays okay on your PC. Any combing problem you see on a TV should be as bad or worse on your PC.
Without being able to picture the problem, it's hard to advise. Is this occuring on more than one movie, or have you only tried the one?
One suggestion I can make - till you resolve the problem, only encode a short section of the movie (sounds like you may have already figured out how to encode a single chapter). I'd also just use CBR at high bitrate for your test encodes - it'll make testing go much faster.
And one last bit of friendly advise; for long posts, you might get more responses if you use white space (like line breaks) to make your post easier to read.
BILKO1
18th March 2002, 00:03
Thanks for the reply Kedirekin, altough i tried smart deinterlace i did not change any settings should i try this or is it not a good idea for a newbie:D
gerti67
18th March 2002, 00:57
Hi BILKO1,
Are you doing PAL or NTSC?
If it's PAL - have you tried them all on the same TV set or on different ones?
Reason I ask is: My parents-in-law have a 100Hz Philips TV set and when they watch a movie I have converted there are some kind of dark-grey horizontal lines all over the screen during scenes with high motion and especially outsanding in scenes with lots of red colors. The exact same SVCDs on the exact same DVD standalone play just fine without any lines on my 50Hz TV set. So it is definitively a problem with the 100Hz TV because the SVCDs are the same and the standalone is also the same.
Might be the same problem with your conversions as there are sometimes no lines on the 100Hz TV set in movies with no action scenes or if the movie is very bright you nearly can't see any of these lines.
Greetings,
Gerti
BILKO1
18th March 2002, 12:01
Thanks gerti67 i tried that already no difference..Anyway if been playing some more and have now got a perfect picture by using smart deinterlace (Mode = frame and field differencing, Treshold = 10, denoise and fast.)but the audio sounds slow i.e females have a really deep voice.
I have tried different audio bitrates but this makes no difference.I'm using a region 1 Canadian dvd now i'm also checking the ntsc to pal box on the conversion tab.i'm going to try some more settings to see if i can get the audio back to normal but if anyone has anymore ideas prey tell cheers BILKO1..
BILKO1
18th March 2002, 13:43
Next update re ripped again left all above settings but checked force film, i have now got a good audio track again and no horizontal lines:cool: but the playback is now jerky and i've run out of things to try now so help is needed from now on......
BILKO1
19th March 2002, 22:31
UPDATE I've tried different media and tried the svcd in different standalone players although the horizontal lines are gone and audio is now perfect its still choppy/jerky. I've run out of ideas and things to uncheck/check any more ideas pleeeeeeeeease:D
herbapou
20th March 2002, 16:50
Did you burn the CD's at 4x speed or MAX speed?
I saw in the Q/A this may be an issue with playback problems
On the subject of playbacks problem:
I made a small test and made 80 mins Bin/CUE files. But, since it was a test and I only had 74 mins CD-RW I try anyway to burn the BIN on a 74 min CD. VCDeasy didnt say a word but the movie froze every min on playback in the DVD player. Of course I was expecting wierd results but my point is make sure you burn on the same CD type the BIN where created for...
BILKO1
20th March 2002, 22:16
I've tried different media types/size and also different write speeds to no avail.Its definately a setting i've got wrong as i tried a chapter using smartripper then dvd2avi finishing of with tmpgenc.This worked fine so i tried the whole dvd again this worked fine and was much faster than dvd2svcd only problem is that the produced .mpg is much to big for 2 cdrs but a waste of 3.Guess i'll just have to keep playing till i get it right.:D
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