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markrb
7th March 2002, 00:49
How many megabytes can you burn and have play correctly in your DVD player?
Please include the Size of CDR disc (74, 80, 90, 99 minute), the DVD player and the CDR burner used.


I will start it off.

DVD players:

Apex AD-1500 80 minute to 828mb, 90 minute to 928mb, 99 minute not tested unit returned to store.
Apex AD-5131 80 minute to 828mb, 90 minute to 928mb, 99 minute to 1000mb so far, futher testing needed
Pioneer DV-343 80 minute to 828mb, 90 minute to 906mb, 99 minute not tested
Edit Just got my 99 minute discs. 99 minute to 1000mb on Apex so far. Tried to make a 1030 Image, but VCXDbuild died.

All burned with a TDK 241040B (Lite-On Clone)

Mark

chainsaw135
7th March 2002, 02:49
So far mark i've done the test i think i kept you posted on that test i had did with the 80 minute cd's....here is my specs

Apex AD-5131 80 to 830megs, i haven't tested 90 minute cd's yet will in the near future tho:)

Was done with the Lite-on LTR-24102B.

Bob01605
7th March 2002, 03:18
Apex AD-1500 80 minute to 828 mb, 90 minute to 928 mb

Pioneer DV-525 80 minute to 828 mb

90 minute ( 900 placed in the bit rate tab gave a 928 MB file )
(added 3/18/02) - The 2 1/2 year old Pioneer 525 seems on the ragged edge for a full 928 MB disk. Further testing showed that 928 MB files would sometimes start looping about 3 seconds of the movie with only 30 or 40 seconds of the movie left on that disk. I have found that if I back off to placing 890 in the bit rate tab I get a 905 MB mpg file or a 918 MB bin file - The Pioneer 525 will play this size to the very end with no problems.

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99 min Cd-R's ( added 3/9/02 )

I did Terminator 2 as a test of the new 99 minute CD-R's - I put 990 as the CD size in the bitrate tab. DVD2SVCD produced 2 bin files of 1022167 KB and 1020888 KB. I burned both bin files on my Aopen CDRW2440 using Nero 5.5.7.2 with the overburn option on. VCDEasy will burn this file also with no problem. Both files burned with no problem at 8 X. Both disks played fine right to the end on my computer - no skips, macroblocks etc.

On the standalone Apex AD-1500 - the disk played right to the end of each disk until the change disk picture came on (at about 68 minutes and 31 seconds on disk one ). The Pioneer 525 played this disk fine until 61 minutes and 40 seconds - At this point I got a few macroblocks and the Pioneer started looping about 3 seconds of the movie continuously. This equates to about the 920-930 MB point in the bin file. The Pioneer 525 player is about 2 1/2 years old and was clearly designed before 99 min disks were an option. I am going to stick with the 90 min disks at least for now as I have to consider the fact that sometimes my son and/or daughter in law borrow my disks - Their DVD players seem to have no problem with the 90 min disks.

I really like the 90 min disks and I am going to order more - By using 90 min disks on a 2 disk encode you can have an extra 100 MB on each CD or a total 200 MB for BOTH Cd's - This equates to an average increase of 225 to 275 KB/sec of bit rate for most movies. On a 100 minute movie with 224 sound using 2 80 min Cd's your bit rate is 1952 - Do the same 100 minute movie using 2 90 min Cd-R's with 224 sound and the bit rate jumps to 2224 KB/sec - an increase of 272 KB/sec.

Bob

razmalaidogg
7th March 2002, 06:23
Apex 1500, 99 min CDR ----> 940 mb

(but I haven't tried 941 or 942 to get the absolute highest... 950 was too much though)


Raz

Labersack
7th March 2002, 09:56
LiteOn 24xBurner
CD-R 99 (no brand name)
995 MB
Played without problems on CAT DV-988

jruben4
8th March 2002, 00:43
Using nero and compusa 99min discs, I set DVD2SVCD to make 900meg files, and it made 929meg BIN files - which were burnable with my TDK 24x and playable all the way to the end on my standalone pioneer DVD player.

which Pioneer Player?
Mark



I've got the trusty Pioneer DV-343. That puppy has played every thing I've ever put in it.
-J

hooley
8th March 2002, 01:15
I have burned most of my movies to 95 minute's (950 meg) on 99 minute cd's using VCDEasy (CDRDAO) overburn and my Apex AD-1500 play's them all, right to the end no problem. So it passed the test for 950meg (I'm now sure it can work to 1 gig). I use a old Mitsumi 4x burner to burn my movies with as it does it sucsessfully every time.....

madmuppet
9th March 2002, 16:45
99 min cdr's play fine in the Logix 3000 DVD player.




you need to say until how many megabytes. Without this info just the cd size is useless.
Mark

axia
10th March 2002, 08:45
Both myself and a freind of mine are relative newbies, however he managed to burn 2 846mb svcds on generic cheepie 750mb (80mins) cdrs, they play fine on Our Dansai 852s, yet My pioneer 106 will not play it neither will powerdvdxp or windvd. Whether this is due to noncompliant headers is uncertain. I am also unable to copy the discx, have tried Nero, fireburner, cdrwin. Clonecd will overburn them and complete the copy, yet the resulting discs are unplayable in our standalones. Burner used was a creative 12x (liteon clone), have been trying to copy them with Liteon 24x.
Am off to get some 99mins cdr today.

Movieslut
17th March 2002, 02:06
I've managed to succesfully burn and play 835megs on a 80min cdr. Burned using a Lite-On LTR24102B, played on a Pioneer DV525

mwolfman
10th April 2002, 22:15
Dansai 951s 101min disk (99) 1025mb(MPEG-2file), Burned with 24Lite-ON in 24X.

Buzzard
11th April 2002, 17:04
@jruben4

"Using nero and compusa 99min discs, I set DVD2SVCD to make 900meg files, and it made 929meg BIN files - which were burnable with my TDK 24x and playable all the way to the end on my standalone pioneer DVD player."

a 99 min disk will hold about 1.0* gig of SVCD file - you burning only 900 meg files on a 99 min disk proves nothing - Next time when you use a 99 min disk set 990 ( not 900 as you did before ) in the bitrate tab and you WILL fill up that 99 min disk.
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"I've got the trusty Pioneer DV-343. That puppy has played every thing I've ever put in it."

Try feeding your "puppy" a 1.0 gig bin file on a 99 min disk and see if it "eats" its way to the VERY END of the CD until the change CD picture comes on or goes into a continuous loop of about 3 seconds with a few minutes left to play. Come back on this thread and tell us the results of how your "puppy" "digested" a 1 + gig bin file.

BUZZARD

mwolfman
11th April 2002, 19:16
well I dont use the change cd picture and dident burn it as a .bin just made the svcd useung neroīs svcd part (TMPEG made the mpeg).

My dvd dident have any with that movie (gladiator).