CCE Speed Problem Here too :(

[balbrain]

Yup I am having a problem with CCE's speed too. I am trying to encode a 3 hour movie inot 3 Cd's with 4 pass VBR and almost all default settings. I am using DVD2SVCD 1.06 build 4 and CCE2.50. I think By the time I complete it will be almost 60 Hours (NO KIDDIN.) I started yesterday and it said ~12 hours, but then after the completion of those 12 hours, it started again. those 12 hours were taken to create the avs file I think, and now its chuggin away creating the mpv file. The speed says 0.353 (Altho I am running it now on low priority as I have to do other work. But yesterday Night I set it on high priority and it took 12 hours to just create just the avs file ??? Please tell me if I am doing something wrong, I am a newbie at SVCD encoding and this is (will be) my fisrt rip...


Thx. Oh BTW heres my hardware :

P4 1.3Ghz
640MB Ram
60GB harddrive
17 GB free space(after ripping movie)


:confused:

[Kedirekin]

I don't think anyone can tell you if anything is wrong until we know more about your process. If you are using safe mode in DVD2SVCD, or if you have both IVTC and Temporal Smoother filters running, then a speed of 0.353 on a 1.3 GHz P4 is in about the right ballpark. And it is normal for CCE to do a preliminary pass (to create a .vaf file) before it starts the real multi-pass encoding.

If you are running normal (AviSynth mgep2dec mode) without either the IVTC or Temporal Smoother filters, then something definately sounds wrong. In that case, you should be getting CCE speeds close to or better than real-time (per pass).

[balbrain]

Can U tell me how I can check whether I am suign these extra things that u said. like IVTC and Safe Mode? Sorry i am a newbie and i just followed the doom9 guide. Also, what speed is realtime?

Thx

[balbrain]

Ok I just checked, I have 'Temporal Smoother' on, but no IVTC (still 23 hours to go. 31 hours completed) Im not using Safe Mode(VPAFI). Do you mean I am fine then. Does that mean I should take off Temporal Smoothers necxt time???

Thx

[chainsaw135]

What you should of done is post in the right forum Which would of been "dvd2svcd/newbie". The second thing you can do is post your dvd2svcd log file so we can see everything you are doing..also post your avisynth script.

[balbrain]

Sorry I didnt know whther it was a DVD2SVCD issue or CCE. Anyways heres my AVISYNTH Script :

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Divx\DECODE~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Divx\DECODE~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Divx\DECODE~1\DVD2SVCD\INVERS~1\DONALD~1\decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\TEMPOR~1\Ripped\KKHH\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide
Decimate(5)
TemporalSmoother(2,1)
SimpleResize(480,480)
ResampleAudio(44100)

And Heer is my DVD2SVCD log. Hope this helps :

--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/23/2002 00:20:21
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.6 build 4
--------------------------------------------------------
Initializing
Initializing finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/23/2002 00:20:25
- DVD2AVI
--------------------------------------------------------
Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\Divx\Decoders and Encoders\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\Divx\Decoders and Encoders\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -IA=1 -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\VTS_01_1.vob,C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\VTS_01_2.vob,C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\VTS_01_3.vob,C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\VTS_01_4.vob,C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\VTS_01_5.vob,C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\VTS_01_6.vob,C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\VTS_01_7.vob,C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\VTS_01_8.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Hybrid Film activated. IVTC will beformed and will slow down the entire process!
Framerate: 29970
DVD2AVI processing done.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/23/2002 00:26:43
- Free on drive C: 17000.49 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
--------------------------------------------------------
Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/23/2002 00:45:10
- Free on drive C: 16379.68 mb
- AUDIO conversion
--------------------------------------------------------

Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\Divx\Decoders and Encoders\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\TEMPOR~1\Ripped\KKHH\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\TEMPOR~1\Ripped\KKHH\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -ota( -g max ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/23/2002 02:11:59
- Free on drive C: 16137.30 mb
- Converting Pictures
--------------------------------------------------------
Converting: C:\Documents and Settings\Srikanth\My Documents\My Pictures\Movie Posters\Kuch Kuch Hotaa Hai.jpg
Converting: C:\Program Files\Divx\Decoders and Encoders\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/23/2002 02:12:08
- Free on drive C: 16135.13 mb
- Video Encoding
--------------------------------------------------------

Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
DVD2SVCD no. frames: 409752
CCE no. frames: 380837
StreamSectors: 2495536764
AudioSectors: 257550328
VideoPAPO: 34667604
ScanOffsetBytes: 457004
SeqAligningBytes: 29045169
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 2173816647.07
Seconds: 15882.09
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 380837
Anti Noise Filter: 2
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 1094
--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/23/2002 15:17:08
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.6 build 4
--------------------------------------------------------
Initializing
Initializing finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/23/2002 15:18:32
- Free on drive C: 15997.13 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: Video encoding
--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/23/2002 15:18:39
- Free on drive C: 15997.13 mb
- Video Encoding
--------------------------------------------------------

Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
DVD2SVCD no. frames: 409752
CCE no. frames: 380837
StreamSectors: 2495536764
AudioSectors: 257647936
VideoPAPO: 34666092
ScanOffsetBytes: 457004
SeqAligningBytes: 29045169
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 2173720551.07
Seconds: 15888.09
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 380837
Anti Noise Filter: 2
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 1094

[chainsaw135]

Yes you can turn off temporal smoother, that should give you an extra 30-40% for increased time..also try doing a 3 pass vbr and see if you like the quality I go between 3 and 4 pass depending on the movie.

[balbrain]

Ok I started the whole thing all over again. This time I DONT have Temporal Smoother on. I DONT have Safe Mode on. I am using Simple Resize. I DONT have IVTC on, my Force film is turned on to Automatic. I am doing the vaf file pass now, BUT STILL MY SPEED IS ONLY : 0.427??? Can Anyone tell me why? I heard people say that it takes about 5-6 hours for the whole process generally, but here it is taking too long. BTW I am using already ripped VOB files (Which I ripped using SmartRipper) as I dont have the DVD with me right now. Can tha be a reason. I am confused.. Can Anyone help. BTW here is my DVD2SVCD log :

--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/25/2002 00:12:05
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.6 build 4
--------------------------------------------------------
Initializing
Initializing finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/25/2002 00:12:09
- DVD2AVI
--------------------------------------------------------
Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\Divx\Decoders and Encoders\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\Divx\Decoders and Encoders\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -IA=1 -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\VTS_01_1.vob,C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\VTS_01_2.vob,C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\VTS_01_3.vob,C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\VTS_01_4.vob,C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\VTS_01_5.vob,C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\VTS_01_6.vob,C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\VTS_01_7.vob,C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\VTS_01_8.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Hybrid Film activated. IVTC will beformed and will slow down the entire process!
Framerate: 29970
DVD2AVI processing done.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/25/2002 00:17:30
- Free on drive C: 19802.16 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
--------------------------------------------------------
Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/25/2002 00:34:48
- Free on drive C: 19181.34 mb
- AUDIO conversion
--------------------------------------------------------

Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\Divx\Decoders and Encoders\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\TEMPOR~1\Ripped\KKHH\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\TEMPOR~1\Ripped\KKHH\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -ota( -g max ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\Temporary\Ripped\KKHH\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/25/2002 02:02:57
- Free on drive C: 18938.96 mb
- Converting Pictures
--------------------------------------------------------
Converting: C:\Documents and Settings\Srikanth\My Documents\My Pictures\Movie Posters\Kuch Kuch Hotaa Hai.jpg
Converting: C:\Program Files\Divx\Decoders and Encoders\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/25/2002 02:03:06
- Free on drive C: 18936.80 mb
- Video Encoding
--------------------------------------------------------

Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
DVD2SVCD no. frames: 409752
CCE no. frames: 380837
StreamSectors: 2495536764
AudioSectors: 257550328
VideoPAPO: 34667604
ScanOffsetBytes: 457004
SeqAligningBytes: 29045169
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 2173816647.07
Seconds: 15882.09
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 380837
Anti Noise Filter: 2
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 1094
--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/25/2002 11:32:42
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.6 build 4
--------------------------------------------------------
Initializing
Initializing finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/25/2002 11:32:45
- Free on drive C: 18850.36 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: Video encoding
--------------------------------------------------------
- 02/25/2002 11:32:46
- Free on drive C: 18850.36 mb
- Video Encoding
--------------------------------------------------------

Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
DVD2SVCD no. frames: 409752
CCE no. frames: 380837
StreamSectors: 2495536764
AudioSectors: 257647936
VideoPAPO: 34666092
ScanOffsetBytes: 457004
SeqAligningBytes: 29045169
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 2173720551.07
Seconds: 15888.09
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 380837
Anti Noise Filter: 2
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 1094

And here is my AVISynth Script File :

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Divx\DECODE~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Divx\DECODE~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Divx\DECODE~1\DVD2SVCD\INVERS~1\DONALD~1\decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\TEMPOR~1\Ripped\KKHH\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide
Decimate(5)
SimpleResize(480,480)
ResampleAudio(44100)

I'll be grateful for any help. Thx
:confused:

[balbrain]

Aha! I think i know da problem. The log file says
"IVTC will beformed and will slow down entire process"
Does that mean it is performing IVTC? Can that happen even though I didnt select it. I selected automatic for Force Film. Can someone please confirm my doubts?

Thx

[Mozart]

it is using the decomb plugin, which can slow down the process almost the same way of IVTC plugin does. There are 4 things that you should do:

1) post questions about DVD2SVCD in the right place;
2) download the most new version;
3) if you want, for any reason, to stick with version 1.0.6, you will need to edit the following line in the avs file:

telecide()

instead of

telecide

this will increase the speed of encoding.
4)use 3 pass instead of 4 pass.