Is CCE Speed over rated or am I doing something wrong?

[NeWcS]

Used the http://www.doom9.org/mpg/cce.htm version and was wondering what im doing wrong. I hear all this talk about how fast CCE is but when I try a 2pass min:300 Avg:1500 Max:2320 CCE after running for 10min. shows it will take close to 20hrs. while doing the same thing w/ TMPG takes me about 10hrs. Am I doing something wrong?????

Duron 800mhz
512 pc133
Maxtor 40gig
ETC ETC ETC

Thanx

[LynchEyes]

Your hardware is not exacly state-of-the-art, and that's a big part of your trouble.

But you didn't post your CCE Speed (indicated by a number like 0.8 (of real time). A figure like 0.5-1.0 is average on most modern systems.

How are you using CCE? DVD2SVCD?

It is a fact that CCE is (approx-general)twice as fast as TMPG with the same quality settings and filters, and will achieve a superior end result. I have used both a lot and this has been my experiance, my SVCD's are virtualy indistingishable from their DVD parents (on TV).

My hardware is:
Dual AthlonMP 1800+
Tyan Tiger MP
Win XP Pro
512 Crucial DDR
80GB 7200 WD
30GB 7200 WD
GeForce 2 GTS Pro 64MB DDR
Antec-400 Watt
CCE 5 pass VBR + Default Settings

CCE Encoding Speed 2.0-2.2 (Oh Ya!)

Send a little more info and lets see what can be done.

[NeWcS]

ok, ill post more when i get home tonight.

[NeWcS]

ok, Im testing using the movie Point Break DVD.

Run Time: 122min
Using 2-pass: Min:300/Avg:1434/Max:2396
16:9
23.976
Audio:224

ok, I did SmartRipper/DVD2AVI/Graphedit to Extract The Audio For TMPG Method. Took close to 12hrs.

For the CCE method Im doing all the above plus:Fake AVI using pseudo AVI/Then resizing and frame serving w/ Vit.Dub. Im getting a speed of .212(lol) And it says its going to take 9hrs. Also 2-pass w/ same BR settings.

So I guess it is faster but dam this freakin CPU hog!!!!! I know, I know......My computer Is out dated.

Seeing how my Computer 'is not exacly state-of-the-art' are these speeds the norm???? It seems like VD is slowing it down. If I just frameserv w/ VD with-out resizing I get a speed of 1.68 but when I use the resize filter it slows to .212

Thanx, hope this added info helps!

[LynchEyes]

That sounds to slow, using additional filters really hits the speed hard, but it shouldn't be that hard.

Are you encoding MPEG-2 or MPEG-1 (?)

If you are using MPEG-2 (and it is a CPU Hog), have you tried DVD2SVCD? If not you should, even just to check out the speed of CCE with a different frame-server.

One thing that can dramatically increase speed (in all encoding) in adding an additional harddrive ($49 option). Setting one drive to have the source (VOB's AVI's) files and the other target for encoded file.

I know it's a pain in the ass to wait so long for encoding, which is why I decided to build a server to do the job. I can now finish a SVCD from Rip to CD Image 5 pass VBR in about 4.5-5.0 hours.

Good luck!

[NeWcS]

Thanx for your input bro. I have a 40gig HDD and encoding/ripping/converting is all its used for. Guess I'll just stick w/ TMPG. Its not as fast but at least I can still use my computer while im encoding.

Thanx for your help again man!!!

[Kedirekin]

Actually, with this process (frame serving from vDub to CCE) a speed of 0.212 on Duron 800 is about right. I used to get speeds of about 0.18 on my P3 500 using that process.

You might increase your speed significantly (50-100%) if you switch to the AviSynth mpeg2dec process. You're already using DVD2AVI, so you're half way there.

[Kairat]

LynchEyes

I've got almost same config as yours: Dual XP1700 on asus mobo, 512ECC PC2100 Crucial RAM, Promise FastTrackT2 100 (2x60gig stripe) source is on separate 40gig udma100 and I get only 0.6 of real time using all default settings. I'm running win2k sp2.
Tell me whats your trick to get such speeds?

[RoopeT]

Using DVD2AVI + AviSynth mpeg2dec frameserving with SimpleResize filter should give something like 0.7 x RT on a 800 MHz Duron.

Since your source is 23.796 fps, I take you're encoding an NTSC source. I didn't do any NTSC sources with my Duron 800, so I can't give you an exact speed estimation. Anyway, I got something like 0.55 with bicubic resize & PAL source. Since SimpleResize is faster and NTSC frame size is smaller you should get somewhat more.