Encoding using BEER!

[Koepi]

Just to stop getting off-topic on other threads, I now present a new thread:

Let's talk about encoding quality relationship versus the sort of beer used encoding...

So I'll start with my first experiences here.

Beck's:
The BEST beer, doesn't have too much impact on visual quality if used in the right quantities (yes, the settings are ALWAYS important!). Encodings always look good.

Haake Beck:
Fine beer as well, but screws up your visual cortex a little, so slight blockyness is usually appearing during encoding sessions. Can only be applied fast and in high dosis (is this the plural as well? Have to drink a Beck's to find out...)
Not recommanded for difficult encodings like noisy movies with many (under)water scenes etc.

Nörten Hardenberger:
The worst. The resulting movie isn't watchable. You think it's ok while encoding using Nörten, but watching it 2 or 3 days later after the hangover you realize that you need glasses as you applied an inverter filter during encoding. Use with care as your visual subsystem will get permanently damaged.

Jever:
Since you get a headache (don't mix this up with heaAC3he!) after the first 0.33l bottle, the resulting movie is too dark. Not recommended.

Weizen:
Since this beer results in already blurry recognition, your settings get too sharp, so the movie can't get compressed well. Also that strange warp-effect you apply to compensate the "tunnel view"(called "fish eye effect" beneath BEER pro encoders) makes the resulting movie look VERY strange.

More reviews may follow!

Regards,
Koepi

P.S.: Don't make me start to tell you the truth about applied music during encoding sessions and the resulting quality!!!

[rui]

LOL! :D :D

[Ripe73]

Well i like Carlsberg sort gold they are very good in fastmotion always drink them with mainDRF2 but the Infraframes sometimes make me to throw up:D

No problem when i watch my beers in the Debugview!!!

[Uli]

Other possibilities:

If you want realtime postprocessing in XviD use several bottles of 'Wolters' on the movie. It's an exellent deblocker but it's difficult to get the right dosage, cause slight overdose and the movie is all gone :eek: Not to mention the hangover :mad:

I really enjoy Kilkenny for serious encoding. Not too blocky, not too soften, just right ;)

cheers, Uli

*ROTFLOL* :p

[Franko30]

I really prefer Rothaus Tannenzäpfle - the encoding settings reflect very well in the (always crumbled) golden aluminum foil around the bottleneck.

So I drink, look at the settings in the aluminum foil and think: Hey all this looks so chaotic, did they change the XVID interface again???

Then I go downstairs 5 floors to the pub "Schwarzwaldstuben" (where I get my Zäpfle) and they say: Don't worry, drink another one, everything is going to be alright...

And indeed it is: XVID just produced another perfectly encoded movie!

Frank

[meleth]

However, I must recommend trying the new Stella Artois filter. It's easily one of the fastest ivtc filters out there. Your encode will look so much better after being run through it a couple of times that you won't believe your eyes. The only problem with this is that vdub don't seem to let you use this filter more then 24 times a day. I'm thinking this might be some license issue since vdub won't just stop letting you pick it but it will also go into sleep mode.

[Nic]

Cant stand Becks! Stella Artois does appear to give good taste & adds visual quality both to my encodes & the women around me. :)

However, I drink Fosters when im out & Jack Daniels when I code :)

Cheers,
-Nic

[MaTTeR]

Originally posted by Nic
Jack Daniels when I code :)

LOL:D This is my drink of choice all the time. If you understand the states and see where I'm from, then it all makes sense;)

[wing1]

roflmao :) you guys just too much! I like homemade whirlwind tea (2shot of rum, 1shot of volka, and 12oz of coke) myself during encoding session. This off course are only done during hardcore encoding session (for killing time only) and not during testing purposes(anticipating result).

[Klumsy]

Koepi (other thread): Yes, it's commonly calles 'Zäpfle' but even it has that name I never had the intention to shove it in like one cause it's a bit too big for my taste *g*

Franko, even though you are from Berlin you have an excellent taste ;)

I come from Baden, the homeland of the Zäpfle. I grew up with it and it made me what I am now... whatever that means ;)

They have an excellent post-processing... after 5 or 6 all the blocks are gone and the picture is very smooth. The colous look like 64-bit and the picture also gets more and more 3-dimensional the later the evening gets. 3D improves for a massive cost of sharpness.

[Franko30]

Originally posted by wing1
whirlwind tea (...)1shot of volka (....)


Hey, sounds great! Where can I get this "volka"?:D

[Klumsy]

maybe that volka is a mixture of vodka and polka... tell us more about it, wing1 :D

Is it made by some russians dancing polka around the boiler while distilling vodka? *g*

[meleth]

Originally posted by Nic

Cant stand Becks! Stella Artois does appear to give good taste & adds visual quality both to my encodes & the women around me. :)





However, I drink Fosters when im out & Jack Daniels when I code :)





Cheers,


-Nic



Ok now i gonna have to object. Fosters is not good and according to my contacts down under, and i quote 'It's the shit we won't even drink ourselves. We only export it'. As a sidenote i can add that foster means fetus in swedish.

[Franko30]

Before this gets out of bounds:

Aren't we here to discuss the effects of BEER! on encoding, instead of discussing beer likes and dislikes?
;)

Frank

[Nic]

Now, I believe that :) Had a mate come back from Australia recently, he says that Fosters is made by a company called "Carlton" or similar & they make beers called "Carlton Premier" (or similar :) ) & Fosters is there low end worse beer.

Yet I drink it by the barrel & have done for years :)
(Carling & Stella are also nice :)

Cheers,
-Nic

ps
maybe -h can comment :)

pps
& Frank is right, we cant let this important thread go OT :D

[Uli]

This is ( besides the XviD thread ) the most interesting and amusing thread since long time ;) I will study the effects further on, when i'm back from pub and cinema...

greetz, Uli

(Going out now for some Kilkenny and for cinema :) )

[-h]

No one in Australia drinks Fosters. No one. It is the leper beer. But it sure is funny to watch other countries drinking it, thinking we like it!

It's pretty sad, because we really do have some nice beers down here.

-h

[gldblade]

Rats, I'm not 21 yet! I guess I can't enjoy the benefits of XviD's BEER filter just yet.

I'm sure there is some way for me to experience this "BEER" phenomenon. What if I were to violate a few more laws...

Are you sure this "BEER" thing is safe for the average user? Any harmful side effects? Has XviD been FDA approved? Maybe XviD should come with a warning label from now on.

"Please do not XviD and drive."
"May cause a state of delusion."
"Please XviD responsibly."

[gnoshi]

Fosters is a poor-grade Australian filter, but if you are in Australia, you also have the option of the VB filter. It also is rather putrid, but does clear up the blocking nicely. It carries a side-effect of some nasty motion blur if applied to heavily.. possibly causing mild illness or the like.
One note however; the VB filter should be applied prior to beginning the movie, because it can cause an unpleasant wincing effect during application, which can cause visual difficulties.

gnoshi

[movmasty]

you are not a wine drinker............

.....you dont know the real pleasure of encoding......

[Teegedeck]

no sorry, I have to step in as a moderator here -- all this talk about beer and you haven't mentioned the great Czech brews EVEN ONCE! what about 'Pilsner Urquell' and 'Budweiser' (the one from Budwar, not the American stuff)?

[zulu]

I prefer "Hütt Urknall". i recommend 3-4 bottles to get rid of macroblocks. always gives me a very soft image.

[suxen_drol]

this rocks!

VB (victorian bitter), southwalk, or XXXX (four x)

[-h]

VB (victorian bitter), southwalk, or XXXX (four x)

My own pet peeve... wtf is with Tooheys buying up pubs and stopping them from selling VB?!?!

It's just.. not cricket.

-h

PS. Yes this belongs in a video encoding forum. Somehow.

[Teegedeck]

Originally posted by zulu
I prefer "Hütt Urknall". i recommend 3-4 bottles to get rid of macroblocks. always gives me a very soft image. OK, let's throw obscure brand-names at each other:D

"Uerige, Schuhmacher, Schluessel, Stiefel"! Give up already?

Welcome aboard, suxen_drol! The choice to post your first message in _this_ thread certainly demonstrates your good taste!

[ChristianHJW]

Originally posted by Teegedeck
Welcome aboard, suxen_drol! The choice to post your first message in _this_ thread certainly demonstrates your good taste! ... in fact i was thinking the very same when reading his posts. These videocoding guys come here ( with the exception of -h of course ) to participate only in those threads being completly non-technical :D ....so what does this tell us ??? ....;)

BTW, sorry for being OT ;) .. to come back to the real subject :

Very surprisingly ( for a Bavarian i mean ) i prefer a few glasses of a strong, heavy red wine like South African or Chilenian Cabernet Sauvignon's for encoding, i also like the Australian Shiraz Cabernet Cuvets a lot ( recommendations about good vineyards from local people via PM are very much appreciated ;) ). If i am drinking beer it has to be Bavarian of course, so this would be a Kuchlbauer (local ) or the well known Schneider Weissbier ( Weizen, Wheat Beer ) or anyother Bavarian Blond beer ( dont call them 'Lager' :angry: ) from smaller local breweries ( micro-breweries you call them ) like Erlbräu, Bischofshof, Kneitinger, Riedenburger, etc. ( Bavarian beer experts now know exactly where in Bavaria i am coming from ;) ).... but somehow i cant find any correlation between my beer brands and my encodings quality :eek: ???

[Teegedeck]

To be honest I prefer wine, too. But it's a bit costly... I'd agree with Australian shiraz or a good cabernet sauvignon from Chile. :D

[Franko30]

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[diji1]

Now, I believe that Had a mate come back from Australia recently, he says that Fosters is made by a company called "Carlton" or similar & they make beers called "Carlton Premier" (or similar ) & Fosters is there low end worse beer.

Yet I drink it by the barrel & have done for years

Correct, but don't worry - we Aussies get a different mix of that sh.. i mean Foster's filter - the overseas "version" of that beer filter works a bit better than our homemade aussie version :).

I personally like the local Coopers Pale Ale filter meself :) ..... sometimes for extra difficult movies i even add a green vegetable matter filter as well - i usually get very good results with this one although it seems to slow everything down a bit :)

/me burps loudly.